[issue32447] IDLE shell won't open on Mac OS 10.13.1

Steve Margetts added the comment: OK, so I created a profile for my son (single name without any spaces!) and that seems to allow both Python and IDLE to work fine. I'll try and sort out my profile slow time - it doesn't seem to be causing any other issues just now.

[issue32447] IDLE shell won't open on Mac OS 10.13.1

Terry J. Reedy added the comment: The Mac issue is the inability to add .xyz directories to the home directory. You can test a fix by entering 'mkdir .idlerc' at the terminal prompt. The IDLE issue is that IDLE quits when it cannot create .idlerc. In this respect, this is

[issue32447] IDLE shell won't open on Mac OS 10.13.1

Ned Deily added the comment: P.S. You might consider creating a new account without the embedded space and moving your files there; it will probably cause other problems for you in the future. I notice that the current System Preferences -> Users & Groups interface won't

[issue32447] IDLE shell won't open on Mac OS 10.13.1

Ned Deily added the comment: OK, that confirms that your home directory permissions are incorrect. Not sure how that happened, possibly by an inadvertent chown command. Note that you need to be careful when using shell commands because your user name has a space character

[issue32447] IDLE shell won't open on Mac OS 10.13.1

Ned Deily added the comment: Just to be sure, please try again with the command as Ronald requested, i.e. include the tilde "~": ls -led ~ -- ___ Python tracker

[issue32447] IDLE shell won't open on Mac OS 10.13.1

Steve Margetts added the comment: Including tilde... Last login: Sat Dec 30 10:47:07 on ttys001 mkdir: /Users/Steve Margetts/.bash_sessions: Permission denied touch: /Users/Steve Margetts/.bash_sessions/8B76B0D2-2C88-4FE0-A8F6-C7FB8C13A2A8.historynew: No such file or

[issue32447] IDLE shell won't open on Mac OS 10.13.1

Steve Margetts added the comment: OK, those commands give: iMac:~ Steve Margetts$ ls -led drwxr-xr-x 21 501 staff 714 30 Dec 10:40 . iMac:~ Steve Margetts$ id uid=503(Steve Margetts) gid=20(staff)

[issue32447] IDLE shell won't open on Mac OS 10.13.1

Ronald Oussoren added the comment: There appears to be a permission issue with the home directory. What's the output of the following commands in a terminal window: $ ls -led ~ $ id The home directory should be owned by the "uid" shown by the second command, and

[issue32447] IDLE shell won't open on Mac OS 10.13.1

Steve Margetts added the comment: Thanks for the help. I've installed ActiveTCL 8.5.18.0 as per the Python recommendation. Running from terminal: Last login: Fri Dec 29 16:46:22 on ttys001 mkdir: /Users/Steve Margetts/.bash_sessions: Permission denied touch: /Users/Steve

[issue32447] IDLE shell won't open on Mac OS 10.13.1

Ned Deily added the comment: Those messages at the top of your terminal sessions are pretty suspicious, e.g. "Permission denied" and "No such file or directory". They suggest a home directory ownership or permissions issue which you should investigate. But definitely try

[issue32447] IDLE shell won't open on Mac OS 10.13.1

Terry J. Reedy added the comment: IDLE uses Python's tcl/tk interface module, called 'tkinter'. Tcl is a separate language and tk is its graphical user interface. This is most likely the problem. Did you follow the advice at https://www.python.org/download/mac/tcltk/ to

[issue32447] IDLE shell won't open on Mac OS 10.13.1

New submission from Steve Margetts : I am trying to install Python on a Max running OS 10.13.1 (so my son can use a 'Coding for Beginners' book). Both 2.7 and 3.6 have the same problem: Clicking on IDLE leads to the icon bouncing a couple of times in the dock, but not