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Ned Deily added the comment: Should be: "I did't *try* elsewhere.", not "see elsewhere". -- ___ Python tracker ___ ___

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Ned Deily added the comment: FTR, Raymond reports in a tweet (https://twitter.com/raymondh/status/1184667350953447424) that it is possible to get logged out if you ignore the warning and try to open a file in IDLE when the System Preference is set to always open documents in tabs. I was

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Terry J. Reedy added the comment: Ned, the warning is non-specific as to what might go wrong. I would not want to remove it until I had tested everything possibly relevant with tabbing set. And there is still the possibility that people will run IDLE with earlier tk releases. The #33397

[issue34864] In Idle, Mac tabs make editor status line disappear.

Terry J. Reedy added the comment: PR 6665, for #33397 (add font resizing to text view and help viewer) got listed because I discovered that increasing and decreasing font size with control wheel/+/- can cause the [close] button to disappear and reappear. (I hope to use FontSizer for editor

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Ned Deily added the comment: FWIW: I did a quick check of the 3.7.2rc1 IDLE, that now has Tk 8.6.9.1, with the "prefer tabs" setting on. The newly added check in IDLE does work as designed but it also looked like the original problem has been fixed in Tk, that is, the co-ordinates did seem

[issue34864] In Idle, Mac tabs make editor status line disappear.

miss-islington added the comment: New changeset 10665544a97b6616898faafc12ac9d06505d0690 by Miss Islington (bot) in branch '3.6': bpo-34864: warn if "Prefer tabs when opening documents" set to "Always" (GH-10464)

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miss-islington added the comment: New changeset 2db190bb356d00422087e1286637887efb8d97c5 by Miss Islington (bot) in branch '3.7': bpo-34864: warn if "Prefer tabs when opening documents" set to "Always" (GH-10464)

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Terry J. Reedy added the comment: New changeset 9ebe8794f003dadfff578a066ea503a3e37ffe1d by Terry Jan Reedy (Tal Einat) in branch 'master': bpo-34864: warn if "Prefer tabs when opening documents" set to "Always" (#10464)

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Terry J. Reedy added the comment: Changing only master could make backports difficult to impractical. (Pure module name changes would be an exception if gits keep track of them and reverses them for a backport.) If a module is touched, user changes to that module get wiped out when the

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Terry J. Reedy added the comment: See #35213 for 'macOS' changes. -- ___ Python tracker ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list

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Ned Deily added the comment: By default, macOS installers just install the files included in a package. For macOS Python installer packages, the problem arises if a particular file is deleted or renamed in a maintenance release and a user has already installed an earlier version of that

[issue34864] In Idle, Mac tabs make editor status line disappear.

Terry J. Reedy added the comment: I will leave macosx alone at least until after 3.6.8. But I plan to merge some modules and want to be able to rename others. #33906 changed windows.py to window.py for 3.7.1 (and 3.6.7). The 3.7.1 Windows installer deleted windows.py; the macOS installer

[issue34864] In Idle, Mac tabs make editor status line disappear.

Tal Einat added the comment: See PR GH-10464, which warns if "Prefer tabs when opening documents" is set to "Always". -- ___ Python tracker ___

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Tal Einat added the comment: Can we detect whether this system preference is enabled? If so, perhaps IDLE should display a prominent warning. -- ___ Python tracker ___

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Ned Deily added the comment: I don’t think it’s worth changing the file name or other names, that just causes needless churn and the possibility for stranded files on an upgrade. I’d just update the docs and messages. -- ___ Python tracker

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Terry J. Reedy added the comment: OK, I will change doc references in the next doc patch, or maybe in a patch that also changes module macosx to macos. (I want to keep it all lowercase. -- resolution: -> fixed stage: patch review -> resolved status: open -> closed type: behavior ->

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miss-islington added the comment: New changeset a650493a4626c309b34a38919a41f5de32de3721 by Miss Islington (bot) in branch '3.6': bpo-34864: Document two IDLE on MacOS issues. (GH-10456) https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/a650493a4626c309b34a38919a41f5de32de3721 --

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miss-islington added the comment: New changeset b91c27d89de83ee664e3726e066eb2e424d84bdf by Miss Islington (bot) in branch '3.7': bpo-34864: Document two IDLE on MacOS issues. (GH-10456) https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/b91c27d89de83ee664e3726e066eb2e424d84bdf -- nosy:

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Ned Deily added the comment: Terry, FYI, according to Apple, the correct current styling for the Mac Operating System is "macOS". We should be using that spelling in the documentation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacOS -- ___ Python tracker

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Terry J. Reedy added the comment: New changeset 50ff02b43145f33f8e28ffbfcc6a9d15c4749a64 by Terry Jan Reedy in branch 'master': bpo-34864: Document two IDLE on MacOS issues. (GH-10456) https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/50ff02b43145f33f8e28ffbfcc6a9d15c4749a64 --

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Tal Einat added the comment: I agree that mentioning that IDLE won't work 100% with that setting on is a good idea. I also agree that at this point it's not worth the effort to do anything more than that. -- ___ Python tracker

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Terry J. Reedy added the comment: As part of revising the IDLE Docs, I want to add a section for running on MacOS (issue in preparation, section title undecided). I already planned on mentioning this setting. It seems it should be dis-recommended, at least at present. --

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Tal Einat added the comment: The search and replace dialogs are also broken by "Prefer tabs when opening documents" being active: they as separate tabs rather than a dialog window. -- ___ Python tracker

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Kevin Walzer added the comment: The behavior outlined in the screenshot is, I believe, a component of the native Cocoa window that underlies Tk; it cannot be controlled or accessed from Tk. It's probably better to avoid altogether or re-implement somehow in IDLE. --

[issue34864] In Idle, Mac tabs make editor status line disappear.

Terry J. Reedy added the comment: Optionally converting windows to tabs is an over-arching goal for IDLE. To do it with IDLE code, IDLE must create a frame (and keep a reference) but not a toplevel. I presume that the Mac window manager extracts the window title and frame from the