[issue10097] platform.uname gives UnicodeError for non-ASCII computer names on Windows

2010-10-14 Thread Martin v . Löwis

New submission from Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de:

Reportedly, platform.uname gives UnicodeError for non-ASCII computer names on 
Windows, see http://www.pasteall.org/16215

I think it is incorrect that _node uses socket.gethostname on Windows. uname() 
should return the local hostname (i.e. the one that the system itself believes 
to have), independent of the network configuration or DNS.

Therefore, I think it should return the COMPUTERNAME environment variable, or 
the result of the GetComputerName() API.

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[issue10049] Add a no-op (null) context manager to contextlib

2010-10-14 Thread Georg Brandl

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I like your latest suggestion, except for the name.  Given that we also have 
the (quite generic) closing, what about just optional?

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[issue9377] socket, PEP 383: Mishandling of non-ASCII bytes in host/domain names

2010-10-14 Thread Martin v . Löwis

Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment:

The failure of platform.uname is an independent bug. IMO, it shouldn't use 
socket.gethostname on Windows, but instead look at the COMPUTERNAME environment 
variable or call the GetComputerName API function. This is more close to what 
uname() does on Unix (i.e. retrieve the local machine name independent of DNS).

I have created issue10097 for this bug.

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[issue10079] idlelib for Python 3 with Guilherme Polo GSoC enhancements

2010-10-14 Thread Bruce Sherwood

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Thanks for catching the missing utils.py file. I can explain the 
missing/commented statement in IOBinding.py. I found experimentally that if 
that statement is present, when you open a file on Windows the first line is 
off the top of the display, which can be quite confusing; this bug is not 
present on the Mac, and deleting the statement makes Windows work properly 
without affecting the Mac. The deletion of the statement was the very last 
correction Guilherme Polo made, and I got the correction into the patch I 
submitted but not into a less correct file at vpython.org.

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[issue4388] test_cmd_line fails on MacOS X

2010-10-14 Thread Martin v . Löwis

Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment:

One solution would be to duplicate the UTF-8 decoder for OSX, incorporating 
surrogate escape. This should be much shorter than the full UTF-8 codec, and 
perhaps at least utf8_code_length could be shared.

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[issue7642] Minor improvement to os.system doc

2010-10-14 Thread Georg Brandl

Georg Brandl ge...@python.org added the comment:

Unfortunately, the rewrap makes it much more complicated to see what  the patch 
changes (i.e. the whole second part of the hunk only adds Windows versions).  
Please leave that to the committer in the future.

Otherwise, committed in r85450; I also removed mention of the unsupported Win9x 
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[issue3865] explain that profilers should be used for profiling, not benchmarking

2010-10-14 Thread Georg Brandl

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Freshed up and committed in r85451.

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[issue10046] Correction to atexit documentation

2010-10-14 Thread Georg Brandl

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Fixed in r85452.

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[issue7642] Minor improvement to os.system doc

2010-10-14 Thread Sandro Tosi

Sandro Tosi sandro.t...@gmail.com added the comment:

On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 08:36, Georg Brandl rep...@bugs.python.org wrote:

 Georg Brandl ge...@python.org added the comment:

 Unfortunately, the rewrap makes it much more complicated to see what  the 
 patch changes (i.e. the whole second part of the hunk only adds Windows 
 versions).  Please leave that to the committer in the future.

Sorry about that :( I'll just leave a note on the tracker if the
changed paragraphs are in need of wrap (but I guess the committer
would notice anyhow ;) .

 Otherwise, committed in r85450; I also removed mention of the unsupported 
 Win9x family.

Thanks!

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[issue6825] Minor documentation bug with os.path.split

2010-10-14 Thread Georg Brandl

Georg Brandl ge...@python.org added the comment:

Thanks, applied in r85453.

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[issue9093] Tools/README is out of date

2010-10-14 Thread Georg Brandl

Georg Brandl ge...@python.org added the comment:

This is indeed fixed already.

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[issue10049] Add a no-op (null) context manager to contextlib

2010-10-14 Thread Raymond Hettinger

Raymond Hettinger rhettin...@users.sourceforge.net added the comment:

 To me, this is more a matter of conceptual completeness 
 than one of practical utility ...

Nick, you don't seem to be truly sold on the need.
I'm -1 on adding this.  It's basically cruft.  If
it were published as an ASPN recipe, its uptake
would be nearly zero.

We need to focus on real problems in the standard 
library and provide solid solutions.  If weight
gets added to the standard lib, it needs to be
selective.

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[issue1710703] zipfile.ZipFile behavior inconsistent.

2010-10-14 Thread Georg Brandl

Georg Brandl ge...@python.org added the comment:

Okay, applied as r85455.

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[issue9418] Move _formatter_* methods from string type into _string module

2010-10-14 Thread Georg Brandl

Georg Brandl ge...@python.org added the comment:

Okay, committed as 85456.  I'll leave it to you how to proceed from here.

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[issue9964] Test failures with -OO

2010-10-14 Thread Georg Brandl

Georg Brandl ge...@python.org added the comment:

Fixed pdb issue in r85457.

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[issue10095] Support undecodable filenames in the parser API

2010-10-14 Thread Martin v . Löwis

Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment:

We shouldn't need to reopen the file in the first place. If we already have a 
file handle, we can rewind it. Then the encoding of the file name becomes 
irrelevant.

I keep forgetting: what was the plan for deprecating the FILE* functions in the 
parser interface? If we need to continue to support them, we could read the 
whole contents of the file before parsing, and then use the memory-based 
parsing algorithm.

If parsing files can be fully based on the IO module, we shouldn't even need to 
rewind the file. Instead, the io module should support switching the encoding 
mid-stream (unless, say, we are in the middle of a multibyte character - since 
the parser always asks for complete lines, this should not happen).

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[issue2636] Regexp 2.7 (modifications to current re 2.2.2)

2010-10-14 Thread Vlastimil Brom

Vlastimil Brom vlastimil.b...@gmail.com added the comment:

I tried to give the 64-bit version a try, but I might have encountered a more 
general difficulties.
I tested this on Windows 7 Home Premium (Czech), the system is 64-bit (or I've 
hoped so sofar :-), according to System info: x64-based PC
I installed
Python 2.7 Windows X86-64 installer
from http://www.python.org/download/
which run ok, but the header in the python shell contains win32

Python 2.7 (r27:82525, Jul  4 2010, 07:43:08) [MSC v.1500 64 bit (AMD64)] on 
win32
Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.

Consequently, after copying the respecitive files from issue2636-20101009.zip
I get an import error:

 import regex
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File stdin, line 1, in module
  File C:\Python_64bit_27\lib\regex.py, line 253, in module
from _regex_core import *
  File C:\Python_64bit_27\lib\_regex_core.py, line 53, in module
import _regex
ImportError: DLL load failed: %1 nenÝ platnß aplikace typu Win32.

 

(The last part of the message is a in Czech with broken diacritics:
 %1 is not a valid Win32 type application.)

Is there something I can do in this case? I'd think, the installer would refuse 
to install a 64-bit software on a 32-bit OS or 32-bit architecture, or am I 
missing something obvious from the naming peculiarities x64, 64bit etc.?
That being said, I probably don't need to use 64-bit version of python, 
obviously, it isn't a wide unicode build mentioned earlier, hence
 len(u\U00010333) # is still: 
2

And I currently don't have special memory requirements, which might be better 
addressed on a 64-bit system.

If there is something I can do to test regex in this environment, please, let 
me know;
On the same machine the 32-version is ok:
Python 2.7 (r27:82525, Jul  4 2010, 09:01:59) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] on 
win32
Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
 import regex


regards
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[issue9964] Test failures with -OO

2010-10-14 Thread Georg Brandl

Georg Brandl ge...@python.org added the comment:

r85459 - test_dis
r85460 - test_import
r85461 - test_lib2to3 (bug was in fix_operator)
r85462 - test_xml_etree
r85464 - test_compileall
r85465 - test_cmd_line_script

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[issue9992] Command-line arguments are not correctly decoded if locale and fileystem encodings are different

2010-10-14 Thread Antoine Pitrou

Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:

 I think that we should accept that b'\xff' can be decoded as '\xff' and 
 that's all.

What do you plan to do to fix this failure?

==
FAIL: test_undecodable_env (test.test_subprocess.POSIXProcessTestCase)
--
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File 
/home2/buildbot2/slave/3.x.loewis-parallel/build/Lib/test/test_subprocess.py, 
line 892, in test_undecodable_env
self.assertEquals(stdout.decode('ascii'), ascii(value))
AssertionError: 'abc\\xff' != 'abc\\udcff'
- 'abc\xff'
?  ^
+ 'abc\udcff'
?  ^^^

http://www.python.org/dev/buildbot/builders/x86%20debian%20parallel%203.x/builds/502/steps/test/logs/stdio

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[issue10098] intermittent failure in test_os

2010-10-14 Thread Antoine Pitrou

New submission from Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr:

The Windows 7 buildbot sometimes shows a failure in test_os:

test test_os failed -- Traceback (most recent call last):
  File 
D:\cygwin\home\db3l\buildarea\3.x.bolen-windows7\build\lib\test\test_os.py, 
line 1080, in test_CTRL_BREAK_EVENT
self._kill_with_event(signal.CTRL_BREAK_EVENT, CTRL_BREAK_EVENT)
  File 
D:\cygwin\home\db3l\buildarea\3.x.bolen-windows7\build\lib\test\test_os.py, 
line 1058, in _kill_with_event
self.fail(subprocess did not stop on {}.format(name))
AssertionError: subprocess did not stop on CTRL_BREAK_EVENT

http://www.python.org/dev/buildbot/3.x.stable/builders/x86%20Windows7%203.x/builds/1755/steps/test/logs/stdio

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[issue10097] platform.uname gives UnicodeError for non-ASCII computer names on Windows

2010-10-14 Thread Marc-Andre Lemburg

Marc-Andre Lemburg m...@egenix.com added the comment:

Martin v. Löwis wrote:
 
 New submission from Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de:
 
 Reportedly, platform.uname gives UnicodeError for non-ASCII computer names on 
 Windows, see http://www.pasteall.org/16215
 
 I think it is incorrect that _node uses socket.gethostname on Windows. 
 uname() should return the local hostname (i.e. the one that the system itself 
 believes to have), independent of the network configuration or DNS.
 
 Therefore, I think it should return the COMPUTERNAME environment variable, or 
 the result of the GetComputerName() API.

There are two issues here:

1. socket.gethostname() shouldn't raise an error on Windows, but
   return the Unicode host name

2. COMPUTERNAME returns an uppercase version of the host name (which we
   could lowercase to stay b/w compatible), however I'm not sure
   whether this is the same as the socket.gethostname() or the
   NETBIOS name and I'm also not sure whether this is always set.

   This link suggests that it's using the NetBIOS name:
   
http://www.scriptlogic.com/support/CustomScripts/environmentVariableReference.html

   The official Microsoft page is unclear about this:
   http://technet.microsoft.com/en-gb/library/bb490954.aspx

Could someone please check whether using the environment
variable COMPUTERNAME would work in the described case ?

What we could do is use the socket.gethostname() and fall back
to COMPUTERNAME in case of decoding problems.

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[issue2636] Regexp 2.7 (modifications to current re 2.2.2)

2010-10-14 Thread Martin v . Löwis

Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment:

Vlastil, what makes you think that issue2636-20101009.zip is a 64-bit version? 
I can only find 32-bit DLLs in it.

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[issue10099] socket.fromfd() documentation problem

2010-10-14 Thread Kálmán Gergely

New submission from Kálmán Gergely kalman.gerg...@duodecad.hu:

socket.fromfd()'s behaviour is somewhat counter-intutive and should contain a 
note to warn the user that it'll leave the original FD open. This is important 
if someone forgets to manually close the file descriptor as it might lead to FD 
leaks (and kernel memory leaks). This is especially the case when there is no 
python object associated with the FD, so no destruction will take place.

patch applies to this:
http://docs.python.org/py3k/archives/python-3.1.2-docs-html.tar.bz2

The only thing it does is that it adds a note section with the following 
message: The original file descriptor will not be closed.

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[issue10099] socket.fromfd() documentation problem

2010-10-14 Thread Kálmán Gergely

Kálmán Gergely kalman.gerg...@duodecad.hu added the comment:

Forgot to add that the changes should be applied to all versions if accepted.

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[issue10097] platform.uname gives UnicodeError for non-ASCII computer names on Windows

2010-10-14 Thread Marc-Andre Lemburg

Marc-Andre Lemburg m...@egenix.com added the comment:

Marc-Andre Lemburg wrote:
 2. COMPUTERNAME returns an uppercase version of the host name (which we
could lowercase to stay b/w compatible), however I'm not sure
whether this is the same as the socket.gethostname() or the
NETBIOS name and I'm also not sure whether this is always set.
 
This link suggests that it's using the NetBIOS name:

 http://www.scriptlogic.com/support/CustomScripts/environmentVariableReference.html
 
The official Microsoft page is unclear about this:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-gb/library/bb490954.aspx

More evidence that the NetBIOS name is used:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa368009(VS.85).aspx
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms724295(v=VS.85).aspx

One problem with this approach is that changes to the NetBIOS name
are not seen by those APIs and variables, e.g. if the machine
get's an update via DHCP. The other is that NetBIOS itself is
being phased out in favor of DNS names - which socket.gethostname()
returns, so we'd be replacing a new technology with an old one.

http://blogs.technet.com/b/networking/archive/2008/12/16/netbios-browsing-and-windows-server-2008-x64-server-core.aspx

BTW: Why doesn't socket.gethostname() use GetComputerNameEx()
which does support Unicode ?

See http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms724301(v=VS.85).aspx

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[issue2636] Regexp 2.7 (modifications to current re 2.2.2)

2010-10-14 Thread Vlastimil Brom

Vlastimil Brom vlastimil.b...@gmail.com added the comment:

Well, it seemed to me too,
I happened to read the last post from Matthew, msg118243, in the sense that he 
made some updates which need testing on a 64 bit system (I am unsure, whether 
hardware architecture, OS type, python build or something else was meant); but 
it must have been somehow separated as a new directory in the 
issue2636-20101009.zip which is not the case.

More generaly, I was somhow confused about the win32 in the shell header in 
the mentioned install.
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[issue10093] Warn when files are not explicitly closed

2010-10-14 Thread Antoine Pitrou

Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:

There is a slight issue with warnings, and that's the filtering by 
module/location. Since these warnings will occur in destructors, they can 
appear at any point without being related to the code being executed. The 
default filtering method (print the first occurrence of matching warnings for 
each location where the warning is issued) then is not appropriate; therefore I 
suggest a separate warning category (ResourceWarning?) for which people can 
enable different rules.

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[issue10093] Warn when files are not explicitly closed

2010-10-14 Thread Giampaolo Rodola'

Changes by Giampaolo Rodola' g.rod...@gmail.com:


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[issue10093] Warn when files are not explicitly closed

2010-10-14 Thread Giampaolo Rodola'

Giampaolo Rodola' g.rod...@gmail.com added the comment:

Does this work also for sockets?

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[issue10093] Warn when files are not explicitly closed

2010-10-14 Thread Antoine Pitrou

Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:

 Does this work also for sockets?

Not with the current implementation. I guess this could be added, but then I 
would have to make the warning method (_dealloc_warn) public on IO classes.

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[issue10093] Warn when files are not explicitly closed

2010-10-14 Thread Antoine Pitrou

Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:

Here is an updated patch using warnings (RuntimeWarning for now) and also 
warning about unclosed sockets.

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[issue9992] Command-line arguments are not correctly decoded if locale and fileystem encodings are different

2010-10-14 Thread STINNER Victor

STINNER Victor victor.stin...@haypocalc.com added the comment:

With r85466+r85467, the test_undecodable_env (of test_subprocess) uses C locale 
to get ASCII locale encoding (for the first test, on unicode environment 
variables). It should have the same effect than env['PYTHONFSENCODING'] = 
'ascii': get ASCII as the filesystem encoding.

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[issue10100] fromfd is now available on all platforms

2010-10-14 Thread Daniel Stutzbach

New submission from Daniel Stutzbach dan...@stutzbachenterprises.com:

fromfd is marked as Availability: Unix, but in Python 3 it is also available on 
Windows:

C:\c:\python31\python.exe
Python 3.1 (r31:73574, Jun 26 2009, 20:21:35) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] on 
win32
Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
 import socket
 socket.fromfd
function fromfd at 0x00B9FBB8

The following lines can also be removed from testFromFd:

if not hasattr(socket, fromfd):
return # On Windows, this doesn't exist

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[issue10099] socket.fromfd() documentation problem

2010-10-14 Thread Daniel Stutzbach

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[issue9992] Command-line arguments are not correctly decoded if locale and fileystem encodings are different

2010-10-14 Thread STINNER Victor

STINNER Victor victor.stin...@haypocalc.com added the comment:

Ok, the issue is not complelty fixed ;-)

12:55  py-bb build #504 of x86 debian parallel 3.x is complete: Success 
[build successful]  Build details are at 
   
http://www.python.org/dev/buildbot/all/builders/x86%20debian%20parallel%203.x/builds/504

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[issue9992] Command-line arguments are not correctly decoded if locale and fileystem encodings are different

2010-10-14 Thread STINNER Victor

STINNER Victor victor.stin...@haypocalc.com added the comment:

I tried... the issue is *now* complelty fixed

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[issue7516] Flag -3 is silently ignored when running regrtest.py -j2

2010-10-14 Thread Antoine Pitrou

Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:

Fixed in r85471.

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[issue8998] add crypto routines to stdlib

2010-10-14 Thread Marc-Andre Lemburg

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I've been in touch with the copyright holders of pyOpenSSL and they all were 
positive about contributing the code to the PSF under a contributor agreement.

The idea would then be to add the crypto routines to pyOpenSSL and have that 
added to the stdlib as say openssl package.

So how should we go about this ? Open a new ticket ?

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[issue8998] add crypto routines to stdlib

2010-10-14 Thread Antoine Pitrou

Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:

 I've been in touch with the copyright holders of pyOpenSSL and they
 all were positive about contributing the code to the PSF under a
 contributor agreement.
 So how should we go about this ? Open a new ticket ?

I would like to see public discussion about this, especially in the
light of the ssl module improvements in Python 3.2. It is not obvious
that duplicate APIs in the stdlib are a good idea, especially when they
are not compatible with each other. It also means that the current
pyOpenSSL maintainer (Jean-Paul) should agree to do maintenance directly
in the stdlib rather than in a separate repo.

 The idea would then be to add the crypto routines to pyOpenSSL and
 have that added to the stdlib as say openssl package.

This sounds a bit ridiculous. Why not add the crypto routines directly
to the stdlib?

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[issue10063] file:// scheme will stop accessing via ftp protocol

2010-10-14 Thread Senthil Kumaran

Senthil Kumaran orsent...@gmail.com added the comment:

Thanks for the comments and feedback.
Fixed this in revision 85475.

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[issue10095] Support undecodable filenames in the parser API

2010-10-14 Thread STINNER Victor

STINNER Victor victor.stin...@haypocalc.com added the comment:

 We shouldn't need to reopen the file in the first place. 
 If we already have a file handle, we can rewind it.
 Then the encoding of the file name becomes irrelevant.

Oh yes, great idea. r85476 implements this solution (use lseek(0) on 
fileno(tok-fp)). The code path exists but only if filename was NULL. But I 
don't think that it worked because there was no call to lseek(0).

The commit fixes this issue (LANG= ./python -c import inspect). I have other 
issues with LANG= ./python Lib/test/regrtest.py -v test_pydoc test_traceback 
but I think that it is a new (different) issue.

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[issue2775] Implement PEP 3108

2010-10-14 Thread Retro

Retro vinet...@gmail.com added the comment:

Can you send my patch and comment to python-dev? Because I don't know how to. I 
don't know where is python-dev and what exactly you mean by this.

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[issue8998] add crypto routines to stdlib

2010-10-14 Thread Marc-Andre Lemburg

Marc-Andre Lemburg m...@egenix.com added the comment:

Antoine Pitrou wrote:
 
 Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:
 
 I've been in touch with the copyright holders of pyOpenSSL and they
 all were positive about contributing the code to the PSF under a
 contributor agreement.
 So how should we go about this ? Open a new ticket ?
 
 I would like to see public discussion about this, especially in the
 light of the ssl module improvements in Python 3.2. It is not obvious
 that duplicate APIs in the stdlib are a good idea, especially when they
 are not compatible with each other. It also means that the current
 pyOpenSSL maintainer (Jean-Paul) should agree to do maintenance directly
 in the stdlib rather than in a separate repo.
 
 The idea would then be to add the crypto routines to pyOpenSSL and
 have that added to the stdlib as say openssl package.
 
 This sounds a bit ridiculous. Why not add the crypto routines directly
 to the stdlib?

To make those routines available to a broader audience and to
get more user feedback.

I don't think we can add pyOpenSSL to Python 3.2, so it's better
to use the available time to hash out the details outside the
stdlib. Once it's in the stdlib, changing APIs is very difficult.

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[issue8998] add crypto routines to stdlib

2010-10-14 Thread Antoine Pitrou

Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:

  This sounds a bit ridiculous. Why not add the crypto routines directly
  to the stdlib?
 
 To make those routines available to a broader audience and to
 get more user feedback.

Sure. But it can be any standalone package, not necessarily pyOpenSSL.
Then, if we want to add them to the stdlib, we don't have to pull in the
whole pyOpenSSL package.

 I don't think we can add pyOpenSSL to Python 3.2,

Right, it's too late.

 so it's better
 to use the available time to hash out the details outside the
 stdlib. Once it's in the stdlib, changing APIs is very difficult.

Then I think the discussion about API and process should move to
python-ideas.

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[issue8998] add crypto routines to stdlib

2010-10-14 Thread Marc-Andre Lemburg

Marc-Andre Lemburg m...@egenix.com added the comment:

Antoine Pitrou wrote:
 
 Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:
 
 This sounds a bit ridiculous. Why not add the crypto routines directly
 to the stdlib?

 To make those routines available to a broader audience and to
 get more user feedback.
 
 Sure. But it can be any standalone package, not necessarily pyOpenSSL.
 Then, if we want to add them to the stdlib, we don't have to pull in the
 whole pyOpenSSL package.

pyOpenSSL has the advantage of already providing all the other
bits and pieces needed to interface and build against OpenSSL,
so it's a good ecosystem for such a development.

Besides there are already patches available which do add the
ciphers and hashs to pyOpenSSL, so the development could be
sped up by using those as references.

 I don't think we can add pyOpenSSL to Python 3.2,
 
 Right, it's too late.
 
 so it's better
 to use the available time to hash out the details outside the
 stdlib. Once it's in the stdlib, changing APIs is very difficult.
 
 Then I think the discussion about API and process should move to
 python-ideas.

The APIs should probably be discussed on the Python crypto or
pyOpenSSL list and the discussion about its integration into the
stdlib on either the python-dev or the stdlib list.

https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pyopenssl-list
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-crypto
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/stdlib-sig

python-ideas is not really meant for such discussions.

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[issue8998] add crypto routines to stdlib

2010-10-14 Thread Antoine Pitrou

Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:

 The APIs should probably be discussed on the Python crypto or
 pyOpenSSL list and the discussion about its integration into the
 stdlib on either the python-dev or the stdlib list.

If the target goal is stdlib inclusion, the APIs should be discussed on
python-ideas too.

 python-ideas is not really meant for such discussions.

Yes, it is.

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[issue10101] a bug in built-in function round() ?

2010-10-14 Thread Retro

New submission from Retro vinet...@gmail.com:

 round(1.255, 2)
1.25

A bug in Python interpreter?


Shold have been:

 round(1.255, 2)
1.26

In mathematics, the .5 part is always rounded up, so in the example the .255 
should be rounded to .26 so please fix this bug.

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[issue10065] future_builtins' docstring lacks some functions

2010-10-14 Thread Senthil Kumaran

Senthil Kumaran orsent...@gmail.com added the comment:

Fixed in revision 85479.

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[issue10101] a bug in built-in function round() ?

2010-10-14 Thread Skip Montanaro

Skip Montanaro s...@pobox.com added the comment:

No, just a result of the finite machine representation of
floats:

 repr(1.255)
'1.2549'

so the machine representation of 1.255 is actually less
than that value and round() is doing the right thing.

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[issue10102] mktime adding an hour in April (naive struct)?

2010-10-14 Thread Kevin Barnhart

New submission from Kevin Barnhart barnbu...@gmail.com:

Just starting to dabble in the world of time and datetime objects.  I was 
converting an array of datetime objects to an array of floats via mktime to do 
some data analysis.  I have ran into an issue where mktime seems to be adding 
an hour on April 6, 2003.  Attached is an example script which I used to create 
the below output:

Python version:  (2, 6, 5, 'final', 0)
Epoch:  time.struct_time(tm_year=1970, tm_mon=1, tm_mday=1, tm_hour=0, 
tm_min=0, tm_sec=0, tm_wday=3, tm_yday=1, tm_isdst=0)
First datetime:  2003-04-06 02:58:17
Second datetime:  2003-04-06 03:13:17
Is first datetime prior to second?:  True
First datetime, time struct: time.struct_time(tm_year=2003, tm_mon=4, 
tm_mday=6, tm_hour=2, tm_min=58, tm_sec=17, tm_wday=6, tm_yday=96, tm_isdst=-1)
Second datetime, time struct: time.struct_time(tm_year=2003, tm_mon=4, 
tm_mday=6, tm_hour=3, tm_min=13, tm_sec=17, tm_wday=6, tm_yday=96, tm_isdst=-1)
Is first time struct prior to second?:  True
First timestamp generated by mktime:  1049623097.0
Second timestamp generated by mktime:  1049620397.0
Is first timestamp less than second timestamp?:  False
First recovered datetime:  2003-04-06 03:58:17
Second recovered datetime:  2003-04-06 03:13:17
Is first recovered prior to second recovered?:  False
Is first recovered datetime same as original?:  False
Is second recovered datetime same as original?:  True

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[issue10101] a bug in built-in function round() ?

2010-10-14 Thread Benjamin Peterson

Changes by Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org:


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[issue8998] add crypto routines to stdlib

2010-10-14 Thread geremy condra

geremy condra debat...@gmail.com added the comment:

 Besides there are already patches available which do add the
 ciphers and hashs to pyOpenSSL, so the development could be
 sped up by using those as references.

I don't think that's the case. I admit that development on this has
been very slow (curse you, Real Life!) but it is nearing a release,
and I doubt that this would save any time even if I didn't have to
rewrite half of the keyphrene code.

Geremy Condra

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[issue9205] Parent process hanging in multiprocessing if children terminate unexpectedly

2010-10-14 Thread Alexander Ljungberg

Changes by Alexander Ljungberg stillf...@gmail.com:


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[issue10086] test_sysconfig failure with site-packages

2010-10-14 Thread Hallvard B Furuseth

Hallvard B Furuseth h.b.furus...@usit.uio.no added the comment:

It's with 'purelib' because my prefix /site matches /site-packages.
This fixes it for me, but maybe you should also assert that
global_path.startswith(os.path.join(base, )).

--- Lib/test/test_sysconfig.py~ 2010-09-20
+++ Lib/test/test_sysconfig.py  2010-10-14
@@ -278 +278 @@ class TestSysConfig(unittest.TestCase):
-self.assertEquals(user_path, global_path.replace(base, user))
+self.assertEquals(user_path, global_path.replace(base, user, 1))

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[issue10103] use the SOABI for GNU/kfreeBSD and the GNU Hurd

2010-10-14 Thread Matthias Klose

New submission from Matthias Klose d...@debian.org:

use the SOABI for GNU/kfreeBSD and the GNU Hurd

afaik, the only distribution for GNU/kfreeBSD and the GNU Hurd currently is 
Debian, and Debian already has this turned on for Linux too.

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[issue10101] a bug in built-in function round() ?

2010-10-14 Thread Retro

Retro vinet...@gmail.com added the comment:

Gee, thanks for the insight. I didn't thought about the fact that binary 
floating point is so imprecise and can cause the round() to error in some 
situations.

In this case, the representation and the actual value are (way) off. How can 
that be? There are just 3 decimal numbers (.255) and Python at parsing the 
float is already off at the third decimal number. I'll never trust round() 
again. Well, actually I trust round() to do its job well -- it's the binary 
floating point I'm affraid of!

We must implement the decimal API to the core of Python in order to have 
precision.

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[issue10103] use the SOABI for GNU/kfreeBSD and the GNU Hurd

2010-10-14 Thread Barry A. Warsaw

Barry A. Warsaw ba...@python.org added the comment:

Looks good to me.

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[issue7523] add SOCK_NONBLOCK and SOCK_CLOEXEC to socket module

2010-10-14 Thread Antoine Pitrou

Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:

Patch committed in r85480, thanks!

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[issue10094] test_urllib.py fails in py3k r85440 with RuntimeError

2010-10-14 Thread Barry A. Warsaw

Barry A. Warsaw ba...@python.org added the comment:

This may not be a Python bug.

The failure is consistent on all Ubuntu 10.10 machines I've tried, including 
both i386 and x86_64 platforms.  I've gone back many svn revisions and even 
pulled down earlier alpha tarballs and the failure is consistent.

This does *not* fail on the one Ubuntu 10.04 x86_64 VM I've tried.  Will try on 
Debian squeeze next.

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[issue10094] test_urllib.py fails in py3k r85440 with RuntimeError

2010-10-14 Thread Senthil Kumaran

Senthil Kumaran orsent...@gmail.com added the comment:

I have seen this in very inconsistent manner.

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[issue10094] test_urllib.py fails in py3k r85440 with RuntimeError

2010-10-14 Thread Barry A. Warsaw

Barry A. Warsaw ba...@python.org added the comment:

Senthil, can you provide any additional information on where/when you've seen 
this?  AFAICT, test_urllib.py is the only test it shows up, but it's totally 
consistent.  What OS/platforms have you seen this happen on?  Same test or 
different one?

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[issue10103] use the SOABI for GNU/kfreeBSD and the GNU Hurd

2010-10-14 Thread Matthias Klose

Matthias Klose d...@debian.org added the comment:

checked in, r85481

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[issue10102] mktime adding an hour in April (naive struct)?

2010-10-14 Thread Alexander Belopolsky

Alexander Belopolsky belopol...@users.sourceforge.net added the comment:

It looks like you have just discovered the joys of daylight saving time.  The 
problem with your example is that datetime(2003,4,6,2,58,17) is not a valid 
time in your timezone (most likely you are in the US).  In the US, prior to 
2007, the clocks moved 1 hour ahead at 2AM on the first Sunday in April. An 
thus 1:59 AM was followed by 3:00 AM and 2:58:17 never occurred.

See the following link for detailed discussion of these issues:

http://docs.python.org/dev/py3k/library/datetime.html#tzinfo-objects

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[issue2636] Regexp 2.7 (modifications to current re 2.2.2)

2010-10-14 Thread Matthew Barnett

Matthew Barnett pyt...@mrabarnett.plus.com added the comment:

I am not able to build or test a 64-bit version. The update was to the source 
files to ensure that if it is compiled for 64 bits then the string positions 
will also be 64-bit.

This change was prompted by a poster who tried to use the re module of a 64-bit 
Python build on a 30GB memmapped file but found that the string positions were 
still limited to 32 bits.

It looked like a 64-bit build of the regex module would have the same 
limitation.

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[issue9527] Add aware local time support to datetime module

2010-10-14 Thread Alexander Belopolsky

Alexander Belopolsky belopol...@users.sourceforge.net added the comment:

Would anyone like to review this? The Rietveld link works (thanks Martin!) and 
I would like to get some feedback on the python version before I invest effort 
into coding this in C.

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[issue10098] intermittent failure in test_os

2010-10-14 Thread Brian Curtin

Brian Curtin cur...@acm.org added the comment:

I've noticed this a few times since r85315. It raises a dialog box saying The 
application was unable to start correctly for some reason.

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[issue10104] test_socket failures on Debian unstable

2010-10-14 Thread Antoine Pitrou

New submission from Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr:

This is following r85480 (issue #7523). It seems the Debian unstable system on 
one of the buildbots has SOCK_NONBLOCK and SOCK_CLOEXEC, but doesn't support 
creating sockets using these flags:

==
ERROR: testInitNonBlocking (test.test_socket.NonBlockingTCPTests)
--
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File 
/home/doko/buildarea/3.x.klose-debian-alpha/build/Lib/test/test_socket.py, 
line 914, in testInitNonBlocking
socket.SOCK_NONBLOCK)
  File /home/doko/buildarea/3.x.klose-debian-alpha/build/Lib/socket.py, line 
94, in __init__
_socket.socket.__init__(self, family, type, proto, fileno)
socket.error: [Errno 22] Invalid argument

==
ERROR: test_SOCK_CLOEXEC (test.test_socket.CloexecConstantTest)
--
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File 
/home/doko/buildarea/3.x.klose-debian-alpha/build/Lib/test/test_socket.py, 
line 1834, in test_SOCK_CLOEXEC
socket.SOCK_STREAM | socket.SOCK_CLOEXEC)
  File /home/doko/buildarea/3.x.klose-debian-alpha/build/Lib/socket.py, line 
94, in __init__
_socket.socket.__init__(self, family, type, proto, fileno)
socket.error: [Errno 22] Invalid argument

==
ERROR: test_SOCK_NONBLOCK (test.test_socket.NonblockConstantTest)
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Traceback (most recent call last):
  File 
/home/doko/buildarea/3.x.klose-debian-alpha/build/Lib/test/test_socket.py, 
line 1854, in test_SOCK_NONBLOCK
socket.SOCK_STREAM | socket.SOCK_NONBLOCK)
  File /home/doko/buildarea/3.x.klose-debian-alpha/build/Lib/socket.py, line 
94, in __init__
_socket.socket.__init__(self, family, type, proto, fileno)
socket.error: [Errno 22] Invalid argument

(full log at 
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[issue10101] a bug in built-in function round() ?

2010-10-14 Thread Éric Araujo

Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org added the comment:

Maybe something like http://docs.python.org/library/decimal ?

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[issue10105] Strings failing to print

2010-10-14 Thread RLS0812

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Attempting to print a string fails in 3.1.2, throwing up an invalid syntax 
 I included a screen shot with the same codes ran in 2.7 and 3.1.2 .

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[issue10094] test_urllib.py fails with RuntimeError on Ubuntu 10.10

2010-10-14 Thread Barry A. Warsaw

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[issue10104] test_socket failures on Debian unstable

2010-10-14 Thread Vetoshkin Nikita

Vetoshkin Nikita nikita.vetosh...@gmail.com added the comment:

What about kernel version? As far as I know 2.6.27 is minimum requirement.

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[issue10105] Strings failing to print

2010-10-14 Thread Éric Araujo

Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org added the comment:

print is a function now.  See for example 
http://docs.python.org/py3k/whatsnew/3.0

In the future, please copy input and output in your message if it's a few line, 
else attache a plain text file.  Text beats images.  Thank you!

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[issue2636] Regexp 2.7 (modifications to current re 2.2.2)

2010-10-14 Thread Vlastimil Brom

Vlastimil Brom vlastimil.b...@gmail.com added the comment:

Sorry for the noise,
it seems, I can go back to the 32-bit python for now then...
vbr

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[issue7537] test_format fails with -j combined with -v

2010-10-14 Thread Florent Xicluna

Florent Xicluna florent.xicl...@gmail.com added the comment:

Unable to reproduce, here. It seems fixed.

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[issue10104] test_socket failures on Debian unstable

2010-10-14 Thread Vetoshkin Nikita

Vetoshkin Nikita nikita.vetosh...@gmail.com added the comment:

Here's the patch from debian's issue 
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=529920
Patch URL: 
https://patches.ubuntu.com/by-release/extracted/ubuntu/n/neon27/0.28.4-2/01_runtime_detect_sock_cloexec.dpatch

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[issue10106] missing packages

2010-10-14 Thread S S

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when trying to install beutifulsoup package on windows xp x86 with python 2.6.6 
getting the following error

C:\Python26python C:\temp\BeautifulSoup-3.0.8.1\setup.py install
'import site' failed; use -v for traceback
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File C:\temp\BeautifulSoup-3.0.8.1\setup.py, line 1, in module
from distutils.core import setup
ImportError: No module named distutils.core


installing the same package with python 2.7 gives a different error about site 
module missing. 

these errors i am getting with any packages  installs actually.

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[issue10104] test_socket failures on Debian unstable

2010-10-14 Thread Antoine Pitrou

Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:

Thanks for the research. Given that it only happens on Debian unstable, and it 
only happens if you explicitly use SOCK_{CLOEXEC,NONBLOCK}, I would vote for 
not adding a workaround until some supported OS also exhibits the issue.

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[issue10104] test_socket failures on Debian unstable

2010-10-14 Thread Vetoshkin Nikita

Vetoshkin Nikita nikita.vetosh...@gmail.com added the comment:

Agree.
Already written code won't suffer, new code should be ready to use new linux 
kernel.

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[issue2775] Implement PEP 3108

2010-10-14 Thread Brett Cannon

Brett Cannon br...@python.org added the comment:

No. Best I can do is suggest you perform an internet search on the term as it 
makes it obvious what python-dev is.

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[issue10106] missing packages

2010-10-14 Thread Brett Cannon

Brett Cannon br...@python.org added the comment:

Double-check your install. Errors like this typically means that your Python 
executable is not able to read the standard library files. Either that or 
something got moved and so the files are not where Python expects them to be.

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[issue10102] mktime adding an hour in April (naive struct)?

2010-10-14 Thread Kevin Barnhart

Kevin Barnhart barnbu...@gmail.com added the comment:

Wow.  Should have caught that.  Thanks for the response.

Kevin

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[issue10097] platform.uname gives UnicodeError for non-ASCII computer names on Windows

2010-10-14 Thread Martin v . Löwis

Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment:

 There are two issues here:

There are two issues, but not here :-)

 1. socket.gethostname() shouldn't raise an error on Windows, but
return the Unicode host name

This is issue 9377, please keep that out of this issue.

 Could someone please check whether using the environment
 variable COMPUTERNAME would work in the described case ?

No - I didn't personally encounter the problem.

 What we could do is use the socket.gethostname() and fall back
 to COMPUTERNAME in case of decoding problems.

I think using socket.gethostname() is conceptually wrong: the
what uname returns is *not* the name the machine has in DNS,
but what is configured in the kernel.

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[issue10101] a bug in built-in function round() ?

2010-10-14 Thread Skip Montanaro

Skip Montanaro s...@pobox.com added the comment:

Retro I didn't thought about the fact that binary floating point is so
Retro imprecise and can cause the round() to error in some
Retro situations.

Details on the limitations of floating point arithmetic are here:

http://docs.python.org/tutorial/floatingpoint.html

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[issue9183] Intern UTC timezone

2010-10-14 Thread Alexander Belopolsky

Alexander Belopolsky belopol...@users.sourceforge.net added the comment:

Committed in r85485.

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[issue9377] socket, PEP 383: Mishandling of non-ASCII bytes in host/domain names

2010-10-14 Thread Martin v . Löwis

Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment:

As a further note: I think socket.gethostname() is a special case, since this 
is just about a local setting (i.e. not related to DNS). We should then assume 
that it is encoded in the locale encoding (in particular, that it is encoded in 
mbcs on Windows).

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[issue10097] platform.uname gives UnicodeError for non-ASCII computer names on Windows

2010-10-14 Thread Martin v . Löwis

Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment:

 More evidence that the NetBIOS name is used:
 
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa368009(VS.85).aspx
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms724295(v=VS.85).aspx
 
 One problem with this approach is that changes to the NetBIOS name
 are not seen by those APIs and variables, e.g. if the machine
 get's an update via DHCP. The other is that NetBIOS itself is
 being phased out in favor of DNS names - which socket.gethostname()
 returns, so we'd be replacing a new technology with an old one.

I think you misunderstand. It's not that this API returns the NetBIOS
name, but that NetBIOS really uses the same name that people understand
as their computer name.

It's incorrect to use DNS names when implementing platform.uname():
on POSIX, uname() *also* does not return the DNS name. If you want
some API to return the DNS name of the computer, you need a different
function (e.g. socket.getfqdn()).

 BTW: Why doesn't socket.gethostname() use GetComputerNameEx()
 which does support Unicode ?

gethostname was specified by Berkeley Unix (4.2BSD specifically).
Microsoft can't just change the signature of the function.

If you are asking whether Python's socket.gethostname calls
gethostname: because this is the whole point of this function.
It would be very confusing if the function didn't call the
same-named platform API.

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[issue10094] test_urllib.py fails in py3k r85440 with RuntimeError

2010-10-14 Thread Senthil Kumaran

Senthil Kumaran orsent...@gmail.com added the comment:

I had seen with test_urllib, but it was inconsistent for me. Sometimes
make distclean and run had worked fine.

This was on Ubuntu 10.04, Intel 64 bit.

It is surprising, if it is seen consistently on Ubuntu 10.10 ( I have
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[issue10107] Quitting IDLE on Mac doesn't save unsaved code

2010-10-14 Thread Bruce Sherwood

New submission from Bruce Sherwood bruce.sherw...@gmail.com:

It has just been discovered that at least since Python 2.6 on the Mac, quitting 
IDLE does not prompt to save unsaved code, which is then lost. The recently 
submitted diff for bringing Guilherme Polo's Google Summer of Code improvements 
into IDLE on Python 3 (ID 10079) does not fix the problem.

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[issue8900] IDLE crashes if Preference set to At Startup - Open Edit Window

2010-10-14 Thread Bruce Sherwood

Bruce Sherwood bruce.sherw...@gmail.com added the comment:

Putting print statements in that part of the world shows that the reason why 
the list.remove fails is that while a ColorDelegator.toggle_colorize_event 
object is in the list, it has a different memory address than the 
ColorDelegator.toggle_colorize_event object to be removed. I've seen this NOT 
fail occasionally (the memory addresses were the same, so the list.remove 
succeeded), all of which would seem to imply that something has moved in memory.

I'll mention that when the failure occurs, the list always has just one object, 
a ColorDelegator.toggle_colorize_event object.

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[issue10106] missing packages

2010-10-14 Thread S S

S S seny...@gmail.com added the comment:

Brett,
the installation did not had any issues.
its running on windows xp, i am administrator of the machine so no permission 
issues. 

nothing got moved either as it fresh install

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[issue4086] support %z format in time.strftime and _strptime?

2010-10-14 Thread Alexander Belopolsky

Alexander Belopolsky belopol...@users.sourceforge.net added the comment:

Closing as a duplicate of (closed) issue 6641.

time.strftime appears to support %z on the platforms that support it in C 
strftime:


 time.strftime(%z, time.localtime())
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[issue10106] missing packages

2010-10-14 Thread Brett Cannon

Brett Cannon br...@python.org added the comment:

I'm now a Windows user, so there might be a better way to solve this, but...

Run ``python -v`` and see what it says about why 'site' was not imported. You 
can also verify that site.py is readable by Python by checking that its 
directory location is listed in sys.path and that you can read the file from 
the prompt.

Beyond that I am out of my element as it is probably a Windows-specific issue.

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[issue10106] missing packages

2010-10-14 Thread Brett Cannon

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[issue10106] missing packages

2010-10-14 Thread Brett Cannon

Brett Cannon br...@python.org added the comment:

I'm not a Windows user, so there might be a better way to solve this, but...

Run ``python -v`` and see what it says about why 'site' was not imported. You 
can also verify that site.py is readable by Python by checking that its 
directory location is listed in sys.path and that you can read the file from 
the prompt.

Beyond that I am out of my element as it is probably a Windows-specific issue.

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[issue10101] a bug in built-in function round() ?

2010-10-14 Thread Martin v . Löwis

Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment:

Please note that the error is not in the third decimal position, but only in 
the 16th (i.e. the difference between the intended value and the actual value 
is smaller than 0.0001).

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[issue10094] test_urllib.py fails in py3k r85440 with RuntimeError

2010-10-14 Thread Barry A. Warsaw

Barry A. Warsaw ba...@python.org added the comment:

The problem occurs on Ubuntu 10.10 because there's a new environment variable 
called $UBUNTU_MENUPROXY in the default user environment.  This is why it 
suddenly showed up in Python 3.1 and why it does not occur on other OS (even 
Ubuntu 10.04).

ProxyTests.setUp() conditional is too naive.  Will attach patch, commit and 
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[issue10094] test_urllib.py fails in py3k r85440 with RuntimeError

2010-10-14 Thread Barry A. Warsaw

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[issue10097] platform.uname gives UnicodeError for non-ASCII computer names on Windows

2010-10-14 Thread Ned Deily

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It's incorrect to use DNS names when implementing platform.uname():
on POSIX, uname() *also* does not return the DNS name. If you want
some API to return the DNS name of the computer, you need a different
function (e.g. socket.getfqdn()).

Even more importantly, the computer may have (and these days, usually has) more 
than one network interface and/or multiple IP addresses bound to a single 
interface.  Each IP address usually has a unique DNS name, but not necessarily. 
 In general, there can be no one-to-one mapping of platform name to DNS name.

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[issue9013] Implement tzinfo.dst() method in timezone

2010-10-14 Thread Alexander Belopolsky

Alexander Belopolsky belopol...@users.sourceforge.net added the comment:

After thinking some more about this issue, I am going to withdraw this 
proposal.  If we want to support storing dst flag in datetime instances, it 
should be stored in the datetime object itself, not in tzinfo. 

See

http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2010-August/102842.html

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[issue10097] platform.uname gives UnicodeError for non-ASCII computer names on Windows

2010-10-14 Thread Marc-Andre Lemburg

Marc-Andre Lemburg m...@egenix.com added the comment:

Martin v. Löwis wrote:
 
 Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment:
 
 More evidence that the NetBIOS name is used:

 http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa368009(VS.85).aspx
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms724295(v=VS.85).aspx

 One problem with this approach is that changes to the NetBIOS name
 are not seen by those APIs and variables, e.g. if the machine
 get's an update via DHCP. The other is that NetBIOS itself is
 being phased out in favor of DNS names - which socket.gethostname()
 returns, so we'd be replacing a new technology with an old one.
 
 I think you misunderstand. It's not that this API returns the NetBIOS
 name, but that NetBIOS really uses the same name that people understand
 as their computer name.
 
 It's incorrect to use DNS names when implementing platform.uname():
 on POSIX, uname() *also* does not return the DNS name. If you want
 some API to return the DNS name of the computer, you need a different
 function (e.g. socket.getfqdn()).

If think you are misunderstanding. The DNS name of a machine *is*
it's node name.

From the gethostname man page:

   Glibc Notes
   The  GNU  C library implements gethostname() as a library function that 
calls
   uname(2) and copies up to len bytes from the  returned  nodename  field  
into
   name.

 BTW: Why doesn't socket.gethostname() use GetComputerNameEx()
 which does support Unicode ?
 
 gethostname was specified by Berkeley Unix (4.2BSD specifically).
 Microsoft can't just change the signature of the function.
 
 If you are asking whether Python's socket.gethostname calls
 gethostname: because this is the whole point of this function.
 It would be very confusing if the function didn't call the
 same-named platform API.

The MS API returns the DNS name as Unicode, so you don't into
those encoding in the first place.

I'll close this report as won't fix, since it's not platform.uname()
that needs to be fixed, but socket.gethostname() and that's issue
9377.

I'll copy the URLs to that issue.

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