[issue34157] NamedTemporaryFile can leave temporary files behind

R. David Murray added the comment: Nick, what Jakub is saying is that 'with' hasn't even gotten involved yet: we're still executing the NamedTemporaryFile constructor, so the object hasn't been returned for 'with' to operate on yet. In other words, NamedTemporaryFile.__init__ isn't safe

[issue34155] email.utils.parseaddr mistakenly parse an email

R. David Murray added the comment: Ah, maybe it doesn't handle it completely correctly; that decode looks different now that I look at it in detail. -- ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issue34

[issue34155] email.utils.parseaddr mistakenly parse an email

R. David Murray added the comment: Oops, I left out a step in that cut and paste. For completeness: >>> x = x[3:] -- ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.or

[issue34155] email.utils.parseaddr mistakenly parse an email

R. David Murray added the comment: That does appear to be a bug. Note that the new email API handles it correctly: >>> x = """ ... > From: =?utf-8?Q?z...@redacted.com.cn=E3=82=86=E2=86=91=E3=82=86?= ... =?utf-8?Q?=E3=82=83=E3=82=85=E3=81=87=E3=8

[issue34138] imaplib RFC 6855 issue

R. David Murray added the comment: Maybe we'll be luck and Maciej will still be interested :) -- nosy: +maciej.szulik ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issue34

[issue34138] imaplib RFC 6855 issue

R. David Murray added the comment: Would you care to propose a patch? That's likely the only way this is going to get fixed, unfortunately, as currently we have no one on the core team interested in imaplib. Which means it is also going to be hard to come up with someone to do the review

[issue34104] email.message.get_payload should enforce correct encoding

R. David Murray added the comment: It looks like the virus checkers are not doing robust decoding that the email RFCs recommend, and that thunderbird is. This is obviously a bug in the virus scanners. By default, like thunderbird, the email library does its best to decode attachments

[issue34102] local variable 'parts' referenced before assignment in feedparser in email module

R. David Murray added the comment: This appears to be a bug in pip or the ansible-lint package, similar, and possibly identical, to issue 31361. I believe None is being passed in as the argument to feed_parser.feed, which is an invalid use of that API and so correctly results in an error

[issue34025] SMTP EmailPolicy not using the correct line length for RCF 2045 encoded data (is 78, should be 76)

R. David Murray added the comment: The default maximum line length is indeed supposed to be 78 (characters..and I can't now remember whether I implemented it in terms of characters or octets), that's per RFC 5322. What is wrong is that content encoded text is supposed to use a max line

[issue33935] shutil.copyfile throws incorrect SameFileError on Google Drive File Stream

R. David Murray added the comment: OK. Finding a solution for this (other than never raising samefile on such systems and documenting it as a limitation) may be difficult. -- ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issue33

[issue33935] shutil.copyfile throws incorrect SameFileError on Google Drive File Stream

R. David Murray added the comment: That patch would cause references to the same file on a google drive to report that the files were different. I'd say this is a bug in Google Drive's posix emulation. I'm not sure there's a good answer here, because even if every other element of the stat

[issue33925] builtin_function_or_method compares __self__ by identity instead of equality

R. David Murray added the comment: This is still a duplicate issue, though, you are just arguing for a different resolution of the other one :) -- nosy: +r.david.murray ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issue33

[issue32500] PySequence_Length() raises TypeError on dict type

R. David Murray added the comment: IIUC that error message came from pypy, not CPython. If you have a reproducer for CPython, you can open a new issue with a request to fix the error message. -- nosy: +r.david.murray ___ Python tracker <ht

[issue33809] Expose `capture_locals` parameter in `traceback` convenience functions

R. David Murray added the comment: I think we should get one or more of the core devs who were involved in the changes that added that parameter to sign off on whether this is a good idea or not (I have no opinion at the moment). You should be able to find them via git blame and looking

[issue33896] Document what components make up the filecmp.cmp os.stat signature.

R. David Murray added the comment: I think it might be OK to document what goes in to the signature, but probably in a footnote, as it is somewhat of an implementation detail and could conceivably change. We could then also add a caution about mtime imprecision being a particular risk

[issue33896] Document what components make up the filecmp.cmp os.stat signature.

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[issue33896] filecmp.cmp returns True on files that differ

R. David Murray added the comment: For your problem, just don't use the default shallow setting :) -- ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issue33

[issue33896] filecmp.cmp returns True on files that differ

R. David Murray added the comment: I understand your concern, but this is working as designed and documented. Using st_ino would mean you would return true if and only if it was the *same* file. That is not the intent. See issue 27396 for some background discussion. -- nosy

[issue28710] Sphinx incompatible markup in the standard library docstrings

R. David Murray added the comment: I would still like to see the legacy tex markup removed from the docstrings, so I think closing this issue is not appropriate, but it's not a big enough deal that I'll push for it if Raymond wants to keep it closed

[issue28710] Sphinx incompatible markup in the standard library docstrings

R. David Murray added the comment: No, it is (somewhat) unique to tex. If you write `word' tex would turn that into a pair of opposing quotes in the typeset document, as opposed to 'word' (the convention in regular text/emails/posts/etc) where you'd just see ascii quotes. tex would render

[issue28710] Sphinx incompatible markup in the standard library docstrings

R. David Murray added the comment: By the way, in case anyone is curious, I'm pretty sure that markup is left over from the days when tex/latex was what docs were *written* in. -- ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issue28

[issue28710] Sphinx incompatible markup in the standard library docstrings

R. David Murray added the comment: Right, my opinion is that we shouldn't be putting markup in docstrings. They are (from our point of view) pure text. I don't know if discussion on python-dev is warranted, it seems like a fairly uncontroversial change, since it brings the docstrings

[issue29750] smtplib doesn't handle unicode passwords

R. David Murray added the comment: I didn't think to look at the standards for the auth mechanisms, I only looked at the smtp standards. So, if the standard says utf-8, then we should use that. But we should still support bytes passwords so that an application could work around issues

[issue33893] Linux terminal shortcuts support in python shell

R. David Murray added the comment: zsh lets you edit multiline shell commands as a unit. If you up-arrow, you get all the lines of the block popped up, with the cursor on the last line. Further arrow keys will navigate within the multiline text block, with an up-arrow from the first line

[issue28710] Sphinx incompatible markup in the standard library

R. David Murray added the comment: Thanks for coming back to this. We're accepting PRs via github now, so the next step now would be to make it into a PR. Sometimes things just get forgotten and you have to nudge them to get them moving (see the devguide for guidelines about when

[issue33890] Pathlib does not compare Windows and MinGW paths as equal

R. David Murray added the comment: Sorry, but these paths are not equal in in any sense that Python by itself can determine. Support for doing this kind of comparison would have to come from MingGW or cygwin, and even if a python library exposed those capabilities, it would be via some new

[issue29750] smtplib doesn't handle unicode passwords

R. David Murray added the comment: We must continue to support at least ascii strings, for backward compatibility reasons. We can certainly improve the error messages, but the goal of this issue is to add support for bytes passwords. I lean toward continuing to only support ascii strings

[issue33846] Misleading error message in urllib.parse.unquote

R. David Murray added the comment: I thought there was a more general issue for the 'in' operator itself, but perhaps the issue you found was indeed the one I was thinking of. This one certainly seems to be a duplicate of that one ;) If you've a mind to, you could turn the patch

[issue33879] Item assignment in tuple mutates list despite throwing error

Change by R. David Murray : -- resolution: -> not a bug stage: -> resolved status: open -> closed ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.or

[issue29750] smtplib doesn't handle unicode passwords

R. David Murray added the comment: For the web cases I presume you also set the password using the web interface, so that doesn't really tell us anything useful. Did you use thunderbird to access the mailbox that you set up via gmail and/or sogo? That would make what thunderbird does

[issue29750] smtplib doesn't handle unicode passwords

R. David Murray added the comment: While you are correct that latin1 may be common in this situation, I think it may still be better to have utf-8 be the default, since that is the (still emerging? :) standard. However, you are correct to call for examples: if in the *majority* of the real

[issue33846] Misleading error message in urllib.parse.unquote

R. David Murray added the comment: We don't generally do type checks like that. This is a specific case of a general issue with binary operators and mismatched string/bytes types. I thought there was an open issue for it, but I haven't found it yet. -- nosy: +r.david.murray

[issue33844] Writing capital letters with csvwriter.writerow changes the csv file format

R. David Murray added the comment: It doesn't look like this has anything to do with Python. This sounds like a question more appropriate for an Excel help forum. -- nosy: +r.david.murray ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issue33

[issue33819] Mention "ordered mapping" instead of "ordered dictionary" in email module

R. David Murray added the comment: Message/EmailMessage are intentionally mimicing the full dictionary API, not just the Mapping API (with a couple exceptions and several extensions). But it is important to mention that it is ordered, both for the reason INADA stgtes, and because the text

[issue33835] Too strong side effect?

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[issue30820] email.contentmanager.raw_data_manager fails to create multipart messages

R. David Murray added the comment: Thanks, Zachery. -- resolution: -> fixed stage: patch review -> resolved status: open -> closed ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.or

[issue30820] email.contentmanager.raw_data_manager fails to create multipart messages

R. David Murray added the comment: New changeset bbbc3d99dca41bc95a9402d702f6ab833d3003c7 by R. David Murray (Miss Islington (bot)) in branch '3.6': bpo-30820: Remove incorrect docs for email.contentmanager.raw_data_manager (GH-7631) (#7634) https://github.com/python/cpython/commit

[issue30820] email.contentmanager.raw_data_manager fails to create multipart messages

R. David Murray added the comment: New changeset b06fc2d244f95f8a497cbcdc6e2fbeb9b8133ca3 by R. David Murray (Miss Islington (bot)) in branch '3.7': bpo-30820: Remove incorrect docs for email.contentmanager.raw_data_manager (GH-7631) (#7633) https://github.com/python/cpython/commit

[issue30820] email.contentmanager.raw_data_manager fails to create multipart messages

R. David Murray added the comment: New changeset 2c071cebe67f517f191f4074757a79b0f597d886 by R. David Murray (Zackery Spytz) in branch 'master': bpo-30820: Remove incorrect docs for email.contentmanager.raw_data_manager (#7631) https://github.com/python/cpython/commit

[issue29750] smtplib doesn't handle unicode passwords

Change by R. David Murray : -- stage: -> needs patch versions: +Python 3.8 -Python 3.7 ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issue29750> ___ ___ Python-

[issue29750] smtplib doesn't handle unicode passwords

R. David Murray added the comment: Note: it is definitely the case, regardless of what the RFC says, that binary passwords need to be supported. utf-8 should probably be used as the default encoding for string passwords, rather than ascii. See also #33741

[issue29750] smtplib doesn't handle unicode passwords

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[issue33741] UnicodeEncodeError onsmtplib.login(MAIL_USER, MAIL_PASSWORD)

R. David Murray added the comment: Duplicate of #29750. TLDR: smtplib needs to be fixed to handle binary passwords, and probably to use utf-8 as the default encoding for unicode passwords. -- nosy: +r.david.murray resolution: -> duplicate stage: -> resolved status: open -&g

[issue33770] base64 throws 'incorrect padding' exception when the issue is NOT with the padding

R. David Murray added the comment: I think that would move it even more into the realm of a bugfix, then, since code that cared about specific binascii exceptions could be looking for that one already. -- ___ Python tracker <ht

[issue28557] error message for bad raw readinto

Change by R. David Murray : -- nosy: +benjamin.peterson, stutzbach ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issue28557> ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailin

[issue33806] Cannot re-open an existing telnet session

R. David Murray added the comment: To clarify: don't call open again *on that telnetlib.Telnet object*. You can certainly have more than one open connection using different telnetlib.Telnet instances, though it might be a bit challenging to manage them

[issue33806] Cannot re-open an existing telnet session

Change by R. David Murray : -- resolution: -> not a bug stage: -> resolved status: open -> closed ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.or

[issue33806] Cannot re-open an existing telnet session

R. David Murray added the comment: telnetlib provides a low level interface to the telnet protocol. The dialog you mention appears to be transmitted on the telnet connection, so it is unlikely there is any bug or missing feature in telnetlib that would affect your problem. The sentence

[issue22454] Adding the opposite function of shlex.split()

R. David Murray added the comment: I like it, myself, though there is some danger in promoting the idea that this is a "safe" operation. It theoretically should be, but it increases the attack surface slightly if you actually use it (that is, using shell=False is always safer, b

[issue33687] uu.py calls os.path.chmod which doesn't exist

R. David Murray added the comment: The email module uses it, so I would object to its being removed. It may not be used often (probably only when working with old email archives), but there's no good reason I can see to break something that currently works. -- nosy: +r.david.murray

[issue33774] Document that @lru_cache caches based on exactly how the function arguments are specified

R. David Murray added the comment: Agreed that this should be documented. -- nosy: +r.david.murray, rhettinger stage: -> needs patch title: Improve doc of @lru_cache to avoid misuse and confusion -> Document that @lru_cache caches based on exactly how the function arg

[issue33770] base64 throws 'incorrect padding' exception when the issue is NOT with the padding

R. David Murray added the comment: I agree, but that would be a separate enhancement PR. The email library would use that capability if it existed...currently it adds padding in a loop trying to do the decode if it gets the invalid padding message. Which of course is going to fail

[issue33770] base64 throws 'incorrect padding' exception even though the string length is a multiple of 4

R. David Murray added the comment: I always assumed that any string composed of valid base64 characters could be decoded to *something* if you added some padding characters, but apparently that was an invalid assumption. I agree that the message is incorrect for this case. -- nosy

[issue33527] Invalid child function scope

Change by R. David Murray : -- resolution: -> not a bug stage: test needed -> resolved status: open -> closed ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.or

[issue33749] pdb.Pdb constructor stdout override required to disable use_rawinput

Change by R. David Murray : -- superseder: -> can cmd.py's API/docs for the use of an alternate stdin be improved? ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issu

[issue33749] pdb.Pdb constructor stdout override required to disable use_rawinput

R. David Murray added the comment: This is a duplicate of 2571 and 10396. As I commented in 10396, if you want to work on an enhancement request (for cmd) that improves the situation, it will be welcome; but as you observed what to do isn't immediately obvious, so discussion before

[issue24085] large memory overhead when pyc is recompiled

R. David Murray added the comment: That's presumably due to the compile-time constant-expression optimization. Have you tried bytes(0x100)? I don't think that gets treated as a constant by the optimizer (but I could be wrong since a bunch of things ahve been added to it lately

[issue33721] os.path.exists() ought to return False if pathname contains NUL

R. David Murray added the comment: I seem to recall that this ValueError behavior was discussed at some length and it is the desired behavior. (At some previous point I think everything after the NUL was ignored.) I'm not really sure why it needs to be documented either, NULs are invalid

[issue33690] urlib.parse.urlencode with empty list and doseq=True drops the parameter

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[issue33690] urlib.parse.urlencode with empty list and doseq=True drops the parameter

R. David Murray added the comment: It would be odd to do that, since blank values are kept by default. -- ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issue33

[issue29326] Blank lines in ._pth file are not ignored

R. David Murray added the comment: Vladimir, please open a new issue for this feature request. This issue is closed. -- nosy: +r.david.murray ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issue29

[issue22021] shutil.make_archive() root_dir do not work

R. David Murray added the comment: Sounds reasonable to me. -- ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issue22021> ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailin

[issue33690] urlib.parse.urlencode with empty list and doseq=True drops the parameter

R. David Murray added the comment: If a sequence as a value means repeated instances of a key with each value from the list, then logically an empty list means no instances of the key, as documented. Blank values aren't really part of the standard (such as it is): the absence

[issue33667] Mock calls on mutable objects

Change by R. David Murray : -- resolution: -> duplicate stage: -> resolved status: open -> closed superseder: -> Python unittest.mock.mock_calls stores references to arguments instead of their values ___ Python tracker <https://

[issue33647] Make string.replace accept a dict instead of two arguments

Change by R. David Murray <rdmur...@bitdance.com>: -- versions: -Python 3.6, Python 3.7 ___ Python tracker <rep...@bugs.python.org> <https://bugs.python

[issue33647] Make string.replace accept a dict instead of two arguments

R. David Murray <rdmur...@bitdance.com> added the comment: That is not kwargs, that's a passing a dict. Which is what you would want, since the strings you want to replace might not be valid identifiers, and so couldn't be passed as keyword arguments. I think I'm -0.5 on this. I don't

[issue33636] Unexpected behavior with * and arrays

R. David Murray <rdmur...@bitdance.com> added the comment: I wrote up a response before Mark closed the issue, so despite his excellent no discussion suggestion I'm going to post it for the edification of anyone reading the issue later rather than waste the work :) Nathan: this is

[issue33633] smtplib msg['To] = appends instead of assigning

R. David Murray <rdmur...@bitdance.com> added the comment: smtplib doesn't define any behavior for messages. I presume you are talking about the email library? Vis the print behavior, dict-style lookup is defined to return the first matching header. If you want to see all of them, y

[issue33590] sched.enter priority has no impact on execution

R. David Murray <rdmur...@bitdance.com> added the comment: I think Ronald is correct. The priority argument for enter would apply if you called enter twice with two different delays, but they happen to end up pointing to the same moment in time from the scheduler's point of view. How

[issue25457] json dump fails for mixed-type keys when sort_keys is specified

R. David Murray <rdmur...@bitdance.com> added the comment: json keys *are* strings, so the fact that we support other object types as keys and coerce them to strings is an "extra feature" of python, and is actually a somewhat questionable feature. The reproducible us

[issue25457] json dump fails for mixed-type keys when sort_keys is specified

R. David Murray <rdmur...@bitdance.com> added the comment: I'm fairly certain (though not 100%, obviously :) that coercing first and then sorting would be accepted if someone wants to create a PR for this. -- nosy: +r.david.murray versions: +Pyth

[issue33581] Document "optional components that are commonly included in Python distributions."

R. David Murray <rdmur...@bitdance.com> added the comment: As I understand it, we don't control or know what that list is, it depends on each distribution's policies. -- nosy: +r.david.murray ___ Python tracker <rep...@bugs.python.or

[issue33547] Relative imports do not replace local variables

R. David Murray <rdmur...@bitdance.com> added the comment: Yes, you are substantially correct. A subtlety that may enhance your understanding (if it doesn't instead totally confuse you :) is that __init__ is simply the most straightforward way to affect the module namespace. You woul

[issue33547] Relative imports do not replace local variables

R. David Murray <rdmur...@bitdance.com> added the comment: It's the same answer. __init__ *is* the package namespace, so you are setting the value of 'func' in the package (.) namespace, and what import is doing is correct. I know this is confusing. I banged my head against it

[issue33547] Relative imports do not replace local variables

R. David Murray <rdmur...@bitdance.com> added the comment: It's importing 'a' from '.', which I guess in this context means from the current namespace (__main__), and a is 7. You'll note that 'b' did get repointed, but it got repointed to what 'a' points to, instead of to 5. If it

[issue33527] Invalid child function scope

R. David Murray <rdmur...@bitdance.com> added the comment: Please post an example, and not a zip file. Given your description (which indeed is not enough to understand what you think the problem is by itself), I think you should be able to post a few lines of python code into the

[issue33520] ast.Tuple has wrong col_offset

R. David Murray <rdmur...@bitdance.com> added the comment: Oh, and the empty tuple is a specific syntactic construct that really is the empty parenthesis, so that's consistent with the language definition. -- ___ Python tracke

[issue33520] ast.Tuple has wrong col_offset

Change by R. David Murray <rdmur...@bitdance.com>: -- resolution: -> not a bug stage: -> resolved status: open -> closed ___ Python tracker <rep...@bugs.python.org> <https://bu

[issue33520] ast.Tuple has wrong col_offset

R. David Murray <rdmur...@bitdance.com> added the comment: No, the parenthesis are never part of the tuple itself, even if you can't write syntactically correct code without them. They just syntactically group the expression list to isolate it from the surrounding context. It's th

[issue33524] non-ascii characters in headers causes TypeError on email.policy.Policy.fold

R. David Murray <rdmur...@bitdance.com> added the comment: Oh, interesting. I could argue that that's a missing feature in Python's slice handling. The value of text_space at that point is '+inf', and I obviously incorrectly assumed that slicing would treat that as if i

[issue33519] Should MutableSequence provide .copy()?

R. David Murray <rdmur...@bitdance.com> added the comment: On the other hand, that section does reference the ABC directly, so I can see the point of your question. So I guess I'm not sure what the answer is...I don't think copy is an essential part of the ABC, but I'm no

[issue33519] Should MutableSequence provide .copy()?

R. David Murray <rdmur...@bitdance.com> added the comment: The ABCs are different from the standard types provided by python itself. The former are a minimal subset of the methods provided by the latter. So I think the answer is neither. -- nosy: +r.david.

[issue18022] Inconsistency between quopri.decodestring() and email.quoprimime.decode()

R. David Murray <rdmur...@bitdance.com> added the comment: I should have just deleted the table, actually. The only important info in it is that per RFC '=', '=\n', and '= \n' all ought to become '='. But I don't think we should make that change, I think we should continue to turn

[issue18022] Inconsistency between quopri.decodestring() and email.quoprimime.decode()

R. David Murray <rdmur...@bitdance.com> added the comment: OK, I've finally gotten around to looking at this. It looks like quopri and binascii are not stripping trailing whitespace. quoprimime binascii quopri preferred b'=' '' b''

[issue33476] String index out of range in get_group(), email/_header_value_parser.py

R. David Murray <rdmur...@bitdance.com> added the comment: The fix is mostly likely correct, so we need a PR for this that includes tests. -- keywords: +easy stage: -> test needed versions: +Python 3.7, Python 3.8 ___ Python tra

[issue33476] String index out of range in get_group(), email/_header_value_parser.py

Change by R. David Murray <rdmur...@bitdance.com>: -- type: crash -> behavior ___ Python tracker <rep...@bugs.python.org> <https://bugs.pyt

[issue33480] Improvement suggestions for urllib.parse.urlparser

R. David Murray <rdmur...@bitdance.com> added the comment: These are actually reasonable requests, and in fact have been brought up before and implemented: >>> x = >>> urlparse('http://me:myp...@example.com:800/foo;key1=value1?key2=value2#key3=value3#key4=value4')

[issue33484] build system runs when it merely link

R. David Murray <rdmur...@bitdance.com> added the comment: Yes, we are one of those projects that wants it to be possible to build python without having the tools that generate build artifacts. You will note that we also check in build artifacts that are produced by our own python s

[issue33484] build system runs when it merely link

R. David Murray <rdmur...@bitdance.com> added the comment: Thanks for wanting to improve Python. Your PR seems to contain quite a few changes that aren't obviously related to your topic. As for the topic, I know there are at least some cases where we really do have to *run* the code to

[issue33481] configparser.write() does not save comments.

Change by R. David Murray <rdmur...@bitdance.com>: -- nosy: +lukasz.langa ___ Python tracker <rep...@bugs.python.org> <https://bugs.python.org/issue33481> ___

[issue33478] PEP 8 CapWords reference wrong?

R. David Murray <rdmur...@bitdance.com> added the comment: In PEP 8 'CapWords" does not refer to the capwords function, as is fairly clear from context. A big clues is that it is not spelled 'capwords', and case matters in python function names :) I can understand your getti

[issue33459] Define "tuple display" in the docs

R. David Murray <rdmur...@bitdance.com> added the comment: Hmm. OK, I didn't think that's how we'd defined those terms, but then I don't actually work with the parser much myself :) However, generator expressions are clearly called out as a separate thing. All of the other display typ

[issue33459] Define "tuple display" in the docs

R. David Murray <rdmur...@bitdance.com> added the comment: That's a generator expression, just like [x for x in ramge(3)] is a list comprehension, not a list display. And yes, in a number of circumstances parenthesis are required to delimit the tuple display and disambiguate the

[issue33459] Define "tuple display" in the docs

R. David Murray <rdmur...@bitdance.com> added the comment: Nope, a tuple display is not equal to a parenthesized list. For example, in: x = 1, 2, 3 1, 2, 3 is a tuple display. The parenthesis are optional in that case (in the general case it is the comma that makes the

[issue33449] Documentation for email.charset confusing about the location of constants

R. David Murray <rdmur...@bitdance.com> added the comment: Ah, I see. Yes, those strings are actually hardcoded in the documentation source instead of being references. You are correct, they should be fixed. Note, however, that Charset is part of the legacy API and isn't actuall

[issue33449] Documentation for email.charset confusing about the location of constants

R. David Murray <rdmur...@bitdance.com> added the comment: Can you provide an example of where this occurs in the docs? -- nosy: +r.david.murray ___ Python tracker <rep...@bugs.python.org> <https://bugs.python

[issue33436] Add an interactive shell for Sqlite3

R. David Murray <rdmur...@bitdance.com> added the comment: It's not immediately obvious what benefits this provides over the existing sqlite-native repl and the python repl. Can you expand a bit on the use case? Also, I seem to remember that Catherine Devlin had at one point thought

[issue33402] Change the fractions.Fraction class to convert to a unicode fraction string

R. David Murray <rdmur...@bitdance.com> added the comment: I vote -1. It's cute, but I'd much rather have a consistently ascii representation of something that is easily represented in ascii. -- nosy: +r.david.murray ___ Python tracke

[issue33395] TypeError: unhashable type: 'instancemethod'

R. David Murray <rdmur...@bitdance.com> added the comment: Functions/methods should be immutable, so yes, I think it is a safe assumption that they should be hashable, and a bug if they are not. I seem to vaguely recall that there is some other part of the cpython machinery that

[issue33395] TypeError: unhashable type: 'instancemethod'

R. David Murray <rdmur...@bitdance.com> added the comment: Ah, in the absence of a traceback I think I misunderstood the problem (I failed to actually look at the code :) Given what you say about the slotwrapper, I'm not sure, but I'm guessing that that means cython isn't

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