[issue17545] os.listdir and os.path.join inconsistent on empty path

2013-04-25 Thread Bernard Lang

Bernard Lang added the comment:

Thank you, David.

BTW, I sent a message on april 20 to d...@python.org about a bug in
the documentation regarding os.readlink(path)
on page  http://docs.python.org/2/library/os.html

and proposing an alternative text.

I got no reply.

This was not long ago  ... should I just wait ?

Sorry for asking you ... I know no one else.

Regards

Bernard

* R. David Murray rep...@bugs.python.org, le 20-04-13, a écrit:
 
 Changes by R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com:
 
 
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[issue17545] os.listdir and os.path.join inconsistent on empty path

2013-03-26 Thread Bernard Lang

Bernard Lang added the comment:

Reply to R.David.Murray

 See also issue 6095.

You are right. I goofed, this is the issue I meant to point to.

 $ ls ''
 ls: cannot access : No such file or directory
 So, the behavior is consistent with the shell.

This is a fair remark.
But still, giving a meaning to something that has none in the shell would not 
be an inconsistency either. There are lots of other differences in the Unix 
shell design, and strings are often used as a syntactic device. You do not have 
to quote file names or paths, unless they raise syntactic problems.

Now if you look at path manipulation commands in the shell, you have :

$ basename aaa
aaa
$ dirname aaa
.

This is a fair choice for the shell since an empty path would print as nothing. 
Furthermore, string manipulation is not as convenient with the shell as it is 
with Python. So the shell is altogether ignoring the empty path, and string 
manipulations (possibly using the empty string) to build a path representation 
are not part of the path system.

Python has already made a different choice.

In [4]: os.path.basename('aaa')
Out[4]: 'aaa'

In [5]: os.path.dirname('aaa')
Out[5]: ''

These are the two results of os.path.split('aaa'), which is somewhat the 
inverse of os.path.join(...) which I initially considered.

So os.path.dirname in Python does return the empty string '' where the shell 
dirname returns a dot. This could also be seen as an inconsistency between Unix 
shell and Python.

However, the Unix shell is internally consistent, while taking into account its 
own specific constraints.

It seems that it is more important for Python to similarly have its own 
internal consistency, especially when considering that Python is already 
departing from Unix shell in some minor ways, which are related to the internal 
consistency issue that was raised.

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[issue17545] os.listdir and os.path.join inconsistent on empty path

2013-03-25 Thread Bernard Lang

New submission from Bernard Lang:

The empty path '' is considered as an acceptable path in os.path.join, and 
works as a neutral prefix:
print os.path.join('','aaa')  ===  aaa
which seems rather natural.
But it raises an exception when used as a parameter to os.listdir.
Logically, it should then list the current directory.
(the alternative would be to raise an exception when os.path.join gets an empty 
argument).

The inconsistency became clear to me when I had to write the following function 
:

def listdirs(path,flist): # Appends to flist all paths to files that
# start with path. Argument path can be empty string ''.
if path=='' : localist=os.listdir('.')
else : localist=os.listdir(path)
for f in localist :
p=os.path.join(path,f)
flist.append(p)
if os.path.isdir(p) :
listdirs(p,flist)
return flist

The conditionnal is needed only to avoid the exception, while the code is 
unique afterwards.

This is related to Issue818059, but I did not see how that issue was resolved.

Furthermore, the case of the empty path as argument to os.listdir should be 
documented in http://docs.python.org/2/library/os.html

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components: Library (Lib)
messages: 185207
nosy: babou
priority: normal
severity: normal
status: open
title: os.listdir and os.path.join inconsistent on empty path
type: enhancement
versions: Python 2.7

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