[issue10537] OS X IDLE 2.7rc1 from 64-bit installer hangs when you paste something.

2010-11-30 Thread Ned Deily

Ned Deily n...@acm.org added the comment:

More data points: using the 2.7.1 release source tarball, the problem is 
reproducible on 10.6 when dynamically linked to the Apple Tcl/Tk 8.5 and 
executing in either 64-bit or 32-bit mode.  It is not reproducible when using 
ActiveState Tcl/Tk 8.5.9, AS Tcl/Tk 8.4.19, or Apple Tcl/Tk 8.4 (none of which, 
of course, is available in 64-bit mode).

Unfortunately, the obvious workaround for the 64-bit/32-bit variant - building 
with one of the working 32-bit versions - does not result in a working IDLE.app 
or bin/idle since IDLE and its subprocesses are all launched in 64-bit mode 
(where possible) on 10.6.  For testing, it is possible to demonstrate 32-bit 
mode in a 64-/32- build with a properly built _tkinter.so by using the -n 
parameter, which causes IDLE to run with no subprocesses:
   arch -i386 /usr/local/bin/idle2.7 -n

Next step: see if the Issue6075 patches help with the Apple 8.5 Tk and, if not, 
add stuff to force both IDLE.app and bin/idle and their subprocesses to run 
only in 32-bit mode: probably either some more lipo-ing and/or adding 
posix_spawns.

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[issue10537] OS X IDLE 2.7rc1 from 64-bit installer hangs when you paste something.

2010-11-28 Thread Ronald Oussoren

Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.com added the comment:

Ned: I was thinking of Issue6075

The patch in that issue needs work, IIRC I was pretty sure at the time that the 
patch was too large and changed more code that it should have.

Sadly enough I have barely had time to do any open-source work at all the last 
couple of weeks, I should have some time before the end of the year...

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[issue10537] OS X IDLE 2.7rc1 from 64-bit installer hangs when you paste something.

2010-11-28 Thread Terry J. Reedy

Changes by Terry J. Reedy tjre...@udel.edu:


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[issue10537] OS X IDLE 2.7rc1 from 64-bit installer hangs when you paste something.

2010-11-27 Thread Ned Deily

Ned Deily n...@acm.org added the comment:

Regardless of the root cause, I really hate to see 2.7.1 go out with this 
unresolved.  As it stands, IDLE was broken in the 2.7 64-bit OS X installer for 
2.7 and, as it stands, is still broken.  And whether it is an Apple Tk problem 
or not (which remains to be determined), there are workarounds that could be 
applied - like having a 32-bit-only IDLE built with Aqua Tk 8.4 as the 32-bit 
installers do.

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[issue10537] OS X IDLE 2.7rc1 from 64-bit installer hangs when you paste something.

2010-11-26 Thread Ned Deily

Ned Deily n...@acm.org added the comment:

This appears to be another variant of the IDLE, OS X 10.6, 64-bit, 
Apple-supplied Tk 8.5 problems.  As a workaround, you can re-install 2.7rc1 
using the 32-bit-only installer; IDLE there does not exhibit these problems.

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title: IDLE crashes when you paste something. - OS X IDLE 2.7rc1 from 64-bit 
installer hangs when you paste something.

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[issue10537] OS X IDLE 2.7rc1 from 64-bit installer hangs when you paste something.

2010-11-26 Thread Terry J. Reedy

Terry J. Reedy tjre...@udel.edu added the comment:

Is this a duplicate of other issues (close?)?
Is this an Apple problem beyond our control (close?)?

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[issue10537] OS X IDLE 2.7rc1 from 64-bit installer hangs when you paste something.

2010-11-26 Thread Ronald Oussoren

Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.com added the comment:

On 27 Nov, 2010, at 0:42, Terry J. Reedy wrote:

 
 Terry J. Reedy tjre...@udel.edu added the comment:
 
 Is this a duplicate of other issues (close?)?

I don't know yet.

 Is this an Apple problem beyond our control (close?)?

This might be fixable. There is a patch that improves AquaTk 8.5 support which 
I need to integrate/test.

Ronald

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[issue10537] OS X IDLE 2.7rc1 from 64-bit installer hangs when you paste something.

2010-11-26 Thread Ned Deily

Ned Deily n...@acm.org added the comment:

Ronald, which patch are you thinking of?  Issue6075?

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