[issue13465] A Jython section in the dev guide would be great

2012-01-15 Thread Ezio Melotti

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[issue13465] A Jython section in the dev guide would be great

2011-12-27 Thread Frank Wierzbicki

Frank Wierzbicki fwierzbi...@gmail.com added the comment:

I have forked the devguide into http://hg.python.org/jython-docs/devguide/ -- 
this way I can merge changes from the main devguide as they make sense. DVCS 
FTW :) -- I guess this issue can be closed.

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[issue13465] A Jython section in the dev guide would be great

2011-12-27 Thread Frank Wierzbicki

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[issue13465] A Jython section in the dev guide would be great

2011-11-28 Thread Frank Wierzbicki

Frank Wierzbicki fwierzbi...@gmail.com added the comment:

I'll take a look at the dev guide this week and see how much it differs from 
what I'd want to do and report back here. If it doesn't make sense to include a 
Jython page here I can either copy content over or link to the CPython dev 
guide from the Jython one.

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[issue13465] A Jython section in the dev guide would be great

2011-11-26 Thread Éric Araujo

Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org added the comment:

python.org is not specific to CPython, but I agree with Antoine that 
docs.python.org/devguide is.  So I went and found the blog post that Frank 
alludes to in the OP is here: 
http://fwierzbicki.blogspot.com/2011/11/contributing-to-jython.html
Nick proposed adding a jython page to the cpython devguide and Frank agreed, 
saying “much of a dev guide I might put up would largely cut and paste from 
there”.  If Jython development is very much like CPython’s apart from repo URI, 
build process and bug tracker URI, then it could fit in just one page and be 
part of the devguide.  If the process widely differs and many pages would be 
needed, then separate devguides may be better.

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[issue13465] A Jython section in the dev guide would be great

2011-11-24 Thread Antoine Pitrou

Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:

 Hosting docs.python.org/devguide/jython doesn't seem like an
 unreasonable idea at all to me, and what's the benefit to CPython in
 making the Jython team go to the effort of building out independent
 deployment and source control infrastructure for their own devguide?

We can *host* (in the Web hosting sense) the jython devguide. That
certainly doesn't mean it belongs in the same piece of documentation.

Our devguide was created to explain how to contribute to the CPython
project. Creating a Jython section only makes things messier than they
are, and it certainly doesn't help our users.

Really, I'm sure setting up a crontab and creating an hg repo is easy
enough for the Jython people (or whoever wants to help them in that
matter).

 wiki.python.org is already shared between the two projects, and
 pydotorg hosts the Jython source control infrastructure in addition to
 CPython's.

Providing infrastructure is not the same as sharing the development
resources themselves. We don't share the (CPython) hg repo, and we don't
share the (CPython) bug tracker. There's no reason to share the
(CPython) devguide, not until the two projects merge together.

(as for the wiki... well, suffice to say that it's a terrible mess and I
hope it's not an example for the devguide. If the wiki was actually
useful and practical we wouldn't have made the devguide a separate site,
I guess)

 More generally, given that we now provide cross-links to PyPy, Jython
 and IronPython from the download pages, it also seems reasonable to
 provide pointers to their own get involved resources from the
 CPython devguide.

We already provide pointers from the devguide:
http://docs.python.org/devguide/#other-interpreter-implementations
It's only a matter of changing the URLs if these projects ask us to.

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[issue13465] A Jython section in the dev guide would be great

2011-11-24 Thread Ezio Melotti

Ezio Melotti ezio.melo...@gmail.com added the comment:

I'd search the Jython devguide at http://www.jython.org/devguide/, having it at 
http://docs.python.org/devguide/jython/ doesn't make much sense IMHO 
(especially if it is a full guide with several pages).

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[issue13465] A Jython section in the dev guide would be great

2011-11-23 Thread Frank Wierzbicki

New submission from Frank Wierzbicki fwierzbi...@gmail.com:

Nick suggested this as a comment on a blog post of mine -- I'll come up with 
some content, but I wanted to log the bug straight away so I wouldn't forget.

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title: A Jython section in the dev guide would be great
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[issue13465] A Jython section in the dev guide would be great

2011-11-23 Thread Antoine Pitrou

Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:

Uh, rather -1 on this. I would suggest Jython gets its own devguide (which can 
of course copy stuff from CPython's), since Jython and CPython are distinct 
projects. No need to confuse readers by mixing instructions for two different 
projects in a single guide.

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[issue13465] A Jython section in the dev guide would be great

2011-11-23 Thread Nick Coghlan

Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com added the comment:

Hosting docs.python.org/devguide/jython doesn't seem like an unreasonable 
idea at all to me, and what's the benefit to CPython in making the Jython team 
go to the effort of building out independent deployment and source control 
infrastructure for their own devguide?

wiki.python.org is already shared between the two projects, and pydotorg hosts 
the Jython source control infrastructure in addition to CPython's.

More generally, given that we now provide cross-links to PyPy, Jython and 
IronPython from the download pages, it also seems reasonable to provide 
pointers to their own get involved resources from the CPython devguide.

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