[issue9893] Usefulness of the Misc/Vim/ files?
Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org added the comment: To download the current release of python.vim, which is an enhanced version of the python syntax highlighting script that conforms with PEP 8, and is actively maintained by the Vim community. s/python/Python/ I think the bit about “enhanced version” could be puzzling. Either say “an enhanced version of the python.vim file that used to be included in the Python repository”, or just delete that part (my preference). To update your .vimrc configuration file with Python-appropriate settings, use the sample file from Misc/Vim/vimrc. The idea is to delete all of Misc/Vim. More comprehensive integration of Vim with Python tools and frameworks can be found at: http://sontek.net/turning-vim-into-a-modern-python-ide I’m not sure we want to add links to specific articles; for example, I had to combine tips from many websites/blogs to have an efficient setup. I suggest our README.vim only points to wim.org pages, and other links can be added to the Vim wikis. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9893 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9893] Usefulness of the Misc/Vim/ files?
Graeme Cross gjcr...@gmail.com added the comment: Here is a first pass at the README.vim file. Suggestions welcome from VIM power-users! -- nosy: +gjcross Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file22981/README.vim ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9893 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9893] Usefulness of the Misc/Vim/ files?
Brett Cannon br...@python.org added the comment: OK, I like Eric's idea of the README.vim file explaining where to grab the community-maintained files and how to get set up. Anyone care to take a stab at writing the file? -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9893 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9893] Usefulness of the Misc/Vim/ files?
Changes by Brett Cannon br...@python.org: -- keywords: +easy ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9893 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9893] Usefulness of the Misc/Vim/ files?
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[issue9893] Usefulness of the Misc/Vim/ files?
Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org added the comment: Alright, let me change my opinion: Let’s replace the Vim files by a README.vim file explaining where to get good helper files (like Misc/README.emacs added in r85927). Then I will learn how to manage my Vim configuration to keep it updated (and adequate for each Python version), and when needed contact the Vim community to request updates. -- stage: - needs patch type: resource usage - ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9893 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9893] Usefulness of the Misc/Vim/ files?
Senthil Kumaran orsent...@gmail.com added the comment: On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 07:59:46PM +, Brett Cannon wrote: But if you have a local copy of the Vim files from the community what is preventing you from editing them for new keywords and sending a patch to the maintainer so that the rest of the community is brought up to speed that much faster? You mean the Python Core Dev maintaining a set of Vim files as a fork from the vim.org maintained files and adding new features when they come up and be submitted the vim.org. If that is the idea, it is indeed a good one. But often it has happened that someone at the vim.org has noticed the changes in Python and updated the files and the scripts at vim.org remain updated. I suspect that not many people beyond core devs use the Misc/Vim file while more people in the community use the vim.org files. Possibly and perhaps that is reason to discard our Misc/Vim in favor of vim.org files. But if you think there *should* be an official recommendation, some pointers would definitely serve. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9893 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9893] Usefulness of the Misc/Vim/ files?
Brett Cannon br...@python.org added the comment: But if you have a local copy of the Vim files from the community what is preventing you from editing them for new keywords and sending a patch to the maintainer so that the rest of the community is brought up to speed that much faster? I suspect that not many people beyond core devs use the Misc/Vim file while more people in the community use the vim.org files. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9893 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9893] Usefulness of the Misc/Vim/ files?
Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org added the comment: “It is maintained and updated by vimmers and we dont have to bother about it” is trumped by “I personally got tired of not having new keywords be recognized”. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9893 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [issue9893] Usefulness of the Misc/Vim/ files?
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 09:52:27PM +, Brett Cannon wrote: At this point I'm willing to either hand maintenance of the files over to someone else or to delete the files and shift what we point people at. I think, just pointing to the script at vim.org location is a good idea. It is maintained and updated by vimmers and we dont have to bother about it. But a README would be helpful as what scripts we recommend, so that it sufficient to meet the style guidelines of PEP8 and PEP7. ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9893] Usefulness of the Misc/Vim/ files?
Brett Cannon br...@python.org added the comment: So I just looked at the syntax file linked by Antoine and that is definitely *not* what he meant to link to; probably meant http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=790 . As for the indentation file, it's out-of-date and so doesn't support 'with' statements (looks like people have already started to fork it: http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=3003). At this point I'm willing to either hand maintenance of the files over to someone else or to delete the files and shift what we point people at. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9893 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9893] Usefulness of the Misc/Vim/ files?
Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org added the comment: Those files are useful for me, even if I had to tweak them slightly. -- nosy: +eric.araujo ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9893 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9893] Usefulness of the Misc/Vim/ files?
New submission from Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr: While trying out vim, I noticed that the files in Misc/Vim are very poor compared to what is otherwise provided by the vim community: - highlighting including 3.x syntax: http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=974 - PEP 8 indentation: http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=974 Also, the vimrc uses au BufRead,BufNewFile *.py style selection, while the recommended modern style seems to use a .vim/ftplugin filetype-specific file instead. Does it still make sense to maintain these files separately? -- components: Demos and Tools messages: 116812 nosy: brett.cannon, pitrou priority: low severity: normal status: open title: Usefulness of the Misc/Vim/ files? type: resource usage versions: Python 3.2 ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9893 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9893] Usefulness of the Misc/Vim/ files?
Brett Cannon br...@python.org added the comment: So the irony of saying that the files are poor is that I took that code from the highlight file from Vim itself and simply automated the creation of the files. As for the more proper way of selecting when to apply the highlights, I would not be surprised that I am wrong. The entire point of the Misc/Vim directory was so that we had files which were as up-to-date as svn is. I personally got tired of not having new keywords be recognized. I'm no Vim expert -- just a happy user -- so I'm sure there could be better out there. If we drop the files we will just have to go back to manually editing files to support new syntax until the community picks it up. But maybe devolving responsibility like that is not a bad thing. And your link for the Python 3 syntax is incorrect; it's the same as the PEP 8 indentation file. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9893 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
