[issue10722] IDLE's subprocess didnit make connection ..... Python 2.7

[Terry J. Reedy]

Terry J. Reedy added the comment:

This has been an occasional problem since forever. It even happened to me 
yesterday, once, but was solved by shutting things down and restarting.

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superseder:  -> IDLE: "IDLE's subprocess didn't make connection.Either IDLE 
can't start a subprocess or personal firewall software is blocking the 
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[issue10722] IDLE's subprocess didnit make connection ..... Python 2.7

[Mark Lawrence]

Mark Lawrence added the comment:

This should be closed as a duplicate of #14576.  There is far more data on that 
issue and it refers to problems with 3.x.

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[issue10722] IDLE's subprocess didnit make connection ..... Python 2.7

[Roger Serwy]

Roger Serwy  added the comment:

The IDLE front-end doesn't receive anything about the subprocess failure mode. 
The "poll_subprocess" method in PyShell.py will restart the subprocess if the 
socket closes. (The "pollpacket" method in rpc.py raises an EOFError.)

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[issue10722] IDLE's subprocess didnit make connection ..... Python 2.7

[Terry J. Reedy]

Terry J. Reedy  added the comment:

3.2.3 and 2.7.3 are out. And I am running on win7 without problems.
I have not tried running multiple shells of the same Python version, but I have 
occasionally run 2.7 and 3.2 simultaneously without problems that I noticed.

Roger, does IDLE get any info at all from the subprocess failure that it could 
display?

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[issue10722] IDLE's subprocess didnit make connection ..... Python 2.7

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[issue10722] IDLE's subprocess didnit make connection ..... Python 2.7

[Terry J. Reedy]

Terry J. Reedy  added the comment:

Some changes have been made to the subprocess connection code since my last 
message here. I believe they occurred after the last releases. There should be 
new 2.7.3 and 3.2.3 releases in about a month, after PyCon. Larry, if you can 
semi-deterministically make the problem happen, please try 3.2 also. I believe 
the IDLE code is the same for both 2.7 and 3.2, but I have no idea about the 
subprocess code.

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[issue10722] IDLE's subprocess didnit make connection ..... Python 2.7

[Larry A. Taylor]

Larry A. Taylor  added the comment:

I have had this happen to me many times with Windows XP, the standard OS here. 
Using IDLE and Python 2.7.

Some of the time the following applies: I have more than one Python Shell open 
at the same time. The first Python shell/IDLE with debug is running a long job 
I don't want to interrupt. 

A second IDLE edit window is connected to the second Python shell. I set the 
shell to debug, then to the edit window with the program, and select 'run'. 

Result: I get the message reported in this issue. Sometimes.

It appears to have nothing to do with firewalls.

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[issue10722] IDLE's subprocess didnit make connection ..... Python 2.7

[Terry J. Reedy]

Terry J. Reedy  added the comment:

I do not have much to add, but second the idea of inquiring on python-list or 
the gmane mirror, especially about alternatives (other than Notepad, which is 
what I started with). Happily, IDLE has nearly always worked fine on my xp 
machine, so I have not tried anything else.

Macs have had more problems than Windows, but perhaps Vista is worse than XP. I 
will be moving to Windows 7 sometime. The intermittent behavior is, I think, 
unusual. Please try 3.1.3 or 3.2b1 or .2b2 (in a few days) to see if there is 
any difference.

It is possible that we could somehow improve the error message or docs.

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[issue10722] IDLE's subprocess didnit make connection ..... Python 2.7

[T Rink]

T Rink  added the comment:

Thanks for your comments.

I also expect the problem is the interation of Python with Windows, but
whether they fault lies by Python or Windows I cannot say.

I can say that the problem seems to come and go away.  Last night it did not
work. This morning it did. A few minutes ago it did.  Now it does not.

 I have to my knowledge a standard installation.  Checking Google, which is
where I started in looking for a solution, shows that the error message has
occured for other people as well.

Again any suggestions are appreciated.

Thanks.

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 2:25 AM, R. David Murray wrote:

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> R. David Murray  added the comment:
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> Perhaps Terry will have some advice (I've added him as nosy), but you may
> have better luck asking on the python mailing list (see mail.python.orgfor 
> list of lists) or its linked newsgroup comp.lang.python, or on the
> #python irc channel (though they may tell you to dump Idle, depending on who
> is in channel at the time :)
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> It is not likely that what you are experiencing is an actual bug in Ptyhon,
> since Idle on windows works for lots of people.  However understanding your
> problem and its solution might help us make the Idle experience more
> friendly, so I'll leave it to Terry to decide how he wants to handle this.
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___Thanks for your comments.I also expect the problem is the interation of 
Python with Windows, but whether they fault lies by Python or Windows I cannot 
say. I can say that the problem seems to come and go away.  Last night 
it did not work. This morning it did. A few minutes ago it did.  Now it does 
not.   
 I have to my knowledge a standard installation.  Checking Google, which 
is where I started in looking for a solution, shows that the error message has 
occured for other people as well.Again any suggestions are appreciated. 

Thanks.  On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 2:25 AM, 
R. David Murray rep...@bugs.python.org> 
wrote:

R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com> added the 
comment:

Perhaps Terry will have some advice (I've added him as nosy), but you may 
have better luck asking on the python mailing list (see http://mail.python.org"; target="_blank">mail.python.org for list of 
lists) or its linked newsgroup comp.lang.python, or on the #python irc channel 
(though they may tell you to dump Idle, depending on who is in channel at the 
time :)


It is not likely that what you are experiencing is an actual bug in Ptyhon, 
since Idle on windows works for lots of people.  However understanding your 
problem and its solution might help us make the Idle experience more friendly, 
so I'll leave it to Terry to decide how he wants to handle this.


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[issue10722] IDLE's subprocess didnit make connection ..... Python 2.7

[R. David Murray]

R. David Murray  added the comment:

Perhaps Terry will have some advice (I've added him as nosy), but you may have 
better luck asking on the python mailing list (see mail.python.org for list of 
lists) or its linked newsgroup comp.lang.python, or on the #python irc channel 
(though they may tell you to dump Idle, depending on who is in channel at the 
time :)

It is not likely that what you are experiencing is an actual bug in Ptyhon, 
since Idle on windows works for lots of people.  However understanding your 
problem and its solution might help us make the Idle experience more friendly, 
so I'll leave it to Terry to decide how he wants to handle this.

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[issue10722] IDLE's subprocess didnit make connection ..... Python 2.7

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[issue10722] IDLE's subprocess didnit make connection ..... Python 2.7

[T Rink]

New submission from T Rink :

Hi. 
My problem is that this evening, the message "IDLE's subprocess didn't make 
connection. Either IDLE can't start a subprocess or personal firewall software 
is blocking the connection." appears after I hit F5 to run a file I am editing.

The program briefly worked on and off ... but after ca. 10 minutes it stopped 
for good. 

I have tried searhcing for solutions, but found nothing that seems to work. 

CONFIGURATION:
   Windows Vista 32
   Python 2.7 (downloaded a week ago)
   New User to Python. Amatuer/Hobby Programmer 

SOLUTIONS I HAVE TRIED
-Tried solution "kill process in task manager". No effect. Process was usually 
already closed by me anyway, but killing it did not help either. 

-Tried solution "repair via .MSI" file. No change.

-Tried to tell Windows Firewall to ignore python and pythonw, that they were 
acceptable. No change.  

-Would prefer not to "Scrap IDLE" as I just started! (Also I do not want to 
write Python only in Notepad and use command lines. As much as I love the 
command line, I do not want that anymore)

-Started to try to use workaround "-n" flag when starting IDLE. 
  a) I would prefer a Solution and not a Workaround that hinders the program 
before I am started.  
  b) I am new to Python and Idle. Windows Vista hides the links, it is not 
clear to me how Python is setup and I am still working on understanding how 
Python operates ... that is pain enough at the moment

REQUEST:
 -Either a useful suggestion to get IDLE to work properly and as it should. 
 -Or a good recommendation for a universal and Idiot-Friendly alternative 
Python programming environment. It should be simple, user-friendly, reliable 
and suitable for novices to experiment (i.e. no complicated setup!) 

(FYI:I spent two years learning Java, and finally canned it, because I got sick 
of spending my free-time trying to debug and decipher workarounds to what 
should have been a simple solution! grrr!)

Thanks to any who can help.

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title: IDLE's subprocess didnit make connection . Python 2.7
type: crash
versions: Python 2.7

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