[issue11571] Turtle window pops under the terminal on OSX
Ned Deily added the comment: As identified in Issue22168, the changes introduced here do not work when the user supplies a Canvas rather than relying on the turtle default. There is a patch there that should solve that issue. But I now think that the original approach was not an ideal solution. For one, it introduced Tk-specific code into TurtleScreen, which is supposed to be independent of the underlying graphics toolkit. Two, as we now know from subsequent work, though the setting of the -topmost attribute does move the window to the front, it does not change which gui application has the keyboard and menu focus. So the user still needs to click on the now-raised window to interact with it. The code added to Lib/turtledemo/__main__.py in Issue17172 solves that problem through the use of a little Applescript. There are a number of turtle and turtledemo changes pending at the moment. It might be worthwhile to re-examine this (perhaps, as earlier suggested, try to deal with it at the tkinter level through an option) after the dust settles. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue11571 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue11571] Turtle window pops under the terminal on OSX
Roundup Robot added the comment: New changeset 1f3946b22e64 by Ned Deily in branch '3.4': Issue #11571: Ensure that the turtle window becomes the topmost window http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/1f3946b22e64 New changeset 01228d7b5e01 by Ned Deily in branch 'default': Issue #11571: merge with 3.4 http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/01228d7b5e01 -- nosy: +python-dev ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue11571 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue11571] Turtle window pops under the terminal on OSX
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[issue11571] Turtle window pops under the terminal on OSX
Ned Deily added the comment: The fix for turtle has been applied for release in 3.4.1 and 3.5.0. -- resolution: wont fix - fixed stage: commit review - resolved ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue11571 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue11571] Turtle window pops under the terminal on OSX
James Cook added the comment:
This problem still exists with the version of turtle bundled with python 3.3.3
and ActiveState ActiveTcl8.5.15.1. While it may be an issue with the
underlying platform, it's unfortunate for young beginners just learning python
who don't understand the underlying issue.
If other parents are searching for a solution, this works:
turtle.getscreen()._root.attributes('-topmost', 1)
turtle.getscreen()._root.attributes('-topmost', 0)
Any chance the workaround patch could be applied so I don't have to tell my kid
to add this magic to his scripts?
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[issue11571] Turtle window pops under the terminal on OSX
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[issue11571] Turtle window pops under the terminal on OSX
Ronald Oussoren added the comment: I'm revisiting some old issues, and while I don't mind adding workarounds to the various scripts I do not consider this to be a bug. This is unexpected behavior from the platform, and only affects running scripts from the command-line (bundling the script in an app bundle would result in a window that pops up in front when the app is launched). I'm unassigning the issue because I'm no longer interested in working on this. -- assignee: ronaldoussoren - ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue11571 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue11571] Turtle window pops under the terminal on OSX
Marc Abramowitz msabr...@gmail.com added the comment: I wonder if this could be applied at some lower level in TkInter, because this bug happens with every Tk app -- e.g.: turtle, idle, web2py -- nosy: +Marc.Abramowitz ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue11571 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue11571] Turtle window pops under the terminal on OSX
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Ned Deily n...@acm.org added the comment: Marc, it could although that would be a change in behavior that possibly might not be desired by all tkinter apps. Perhaps the thing to do is add an optional topmost argument to tkinter.Tk() with the default value being True. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue11571 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.com added the comment: On 07 Apr, 2011,at 07:03 PM, Alexander Belopolsky rep...@bugs.python.org wrote: Alexander Belopolsky belopol...@users.sourceforge.net added the comment: While you are at it, can you also fix the same issue with python -m tkinter? Â Sure, I can add a hack to that module as well. Ronald -- Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file21581/unnamed ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue11571 ___htmlbodydivbrbrOn 07 Apr, 2011,at 07:03 PM, Alexander Belopolsky lt;rep...@bugs.python.orggt; wrote:brbr/divdivblockquote type=citediv class=msg-quotediv class=_stretchbr Alexander Belopolsky lt;a href=mailto:belopol...@users.sourceforge.net; _mce_href=mailto:belopol...@users.sourceforge.net;belopol...@users.sourceforge.net/agt; added the comment:br br While you are at it, can you also fix the same issue with python -m tkinter?/div/div/blockquotespannbsp;/span/divdivspanSure, I can add a hack to that module as well./span/divdivspanbr/span/divdivspanRonald/span/divdivblockquote type=citediv class=msg-quotediv class=_stretchspan style=color: rgb(0, 0, 0); span style=color: rgb(0, 51, 153); font class=Apple-style-span color=#00 face=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serifbr/font/span/span/div/div/blockquote/div/body/html ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.com added the comment: +1 on applying the patch. I can do so on Sunday but feel to apply the patch before that. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue11571 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue11571] Turtle window pops under the terminal on OSX
Alexander Belopolsky belopol...@users.sourceforge.net added the comment: While you are at it, can you also fix the same issue with python -m tkinter? -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue11571 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue11571] Turtle window pops under the terminal on OSX
Alexander Belopolsky belopol...@users.sourceforge.net added the comment: .. and python -m turtledemo? -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue11571 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue11571] Turtle window pops under the terminal on OSX
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[issue11571] Turtle window pops under the terminal on OSX
Ned Deily n...@acm.org added the comment: Looks good to me. I tested on OS X with both Tk 8.5 on 10.6 and Tk 8.4 on 10.5. The demo runs fine under IDLE.app and bin/idle3. If no objections, I'll commit the patch with the nit addressed. -- keywords: +patch stage: - commit review versions: +Python 2.7, Python 3.2 Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file21529/issue11571.patch ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue11571 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue11571] Turtle window pops under the terminal on OSX
New submission from Alexander Belopolsky belopol...@users.sourceforge.net:
If you have a large enough terminal window and run
$ python -m turtle
on OSX, you will see nothing because turtle screen pops under the terminal.
Ned Deily suggested in msg130421 that this can be fixed by setting -topmost
WM attribute on the root window. However, if you apply the following patch:
diff -r 71b182134853 Lib/turtle.py
--- a/Lib/turtle.py Wed Mar 16 09:44:26 2011 -0400
+++ b/Lib/turtle.py Wed Mar 16 10:49:22 2011 -0400
@@ -993,6 +993,7 @@
self._colormode = _CFG[colormode]
self._keys = []
self.clear()
+cv._rootwindow.call('wm', 'attributes', '.', '-topmost', '1')
def clear(self):
Delete all drawings and all turtles from the TurtleScreen.
The result is that turtle window stays on top even if you shift focus back to
the terminal.
The correct behavior would be for the turtle screen to pop on top, ideally
without receiving the focus, but allow users to obscure it with another window
if they wish.
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assignee: ronaldoussoren
components: Library (Lib), Macintosh
messages: 131124
nosy: belopolsky, ned.deily, ronaldoussoren
priority: normal
severity: normal
status: open
title: Turtle window pops under the terminal on OSX
type: behavior
versions: Python 3.3
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[issue11571] Turtle window pops under the terminal on OSX
Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.com added the comment: The attached patch forces the window to the front by first making the window a topmost window and then resetting that flag. Could you test if this does want you'd like it to? (The patch is for 3.3, will backport upto 2.7 when the behavior is correct) -- Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file21242/issue-11571.txt ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue11571 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue11571] Turtle window pops under the terminal on OSX
Alexander Belopolsky belopol...@users.sourceforge.net added the comment: On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Ronald Oussoren rep...@bugs.python.org wrote: .. The attached patch forces the window to the front by first making the window a topmost window and then resetting that flag. Could you test if this does want you'd like it to? Yes, this works. Nice trick - did not think of it. I don't use idle, but someone should test that this works when turtle is used by idle. It works fine when I start idle from command line (in which case idle itself pops under the terminal), but I understand that most users start idle from Finder or the Dock and I don't have that set up. A nit-pick: in the current turtle code module imports and from module imports are visually separated. Consider moving import sys below import inspect. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue11571 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
