[issue13884] IDLE: Remove tear-off menu feature

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[issue13884] IDLE: Remove tear-off menu feature

Terry J. Reedy added the comment: I decided the accessibility argument does not apply because a) there is only one nested menu, Recent files b) that menu can be very wide and I intend to make it longer, making it a bad candidate for staying on the screen, and c) when torn off, it did not seem

[issue13884] IDLE: Remove tear-off menu feature

Roundup Robot added the comment: New changeset bead9330438c by Terry Jan Reedy in branch '2.7': Issue #13884: Idle: Remove tearoff lines from menus. Patch by Roger Serwy. https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/bead9330438c New changeset 6eb4441ed14b by Terry Jan Reedy in branch '3.4': Issue #13884: I

[issue13884] IDLE: Remove tear-off menu feature

Mark Roseman added the comment: Doing it via the option database vs. on each menu would be my preferred approach. The option database is global, not per toplevel, so would cover everything. Only 'downside' is the whole its-not-an-application-its-a-library thing, though in the highly unlikely c

[issue13884] IDLE: Remove tear-off menu feature

Tal Einat added the comment: +1 for removal. -- nosy: +taleinat ___ Python tracker ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe:

[issue13884] IDLE: Remove tear-off menu feature

Terry J. Reedy added the comment: In your online tutorial, your recommend root.option_add('*tearOff', FALSE) Why not here, and be covered everywhere, and in the future? Or is this needed for each Toplevel? -- versions: +Python 3.6 ___ Python tracker

[issue13884] IDLE: Remove tear-off menu feature

Mark Roseman added the comment: Same changes for 2.7 branch -- Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file40059/tearoff27.patch ___ Python tracker ___ ___

[issue13884] IDLE: Remove tear-off menu feature

Mark Roseman added the comment: As indicated in prior comments, the tearoff menus are strictly a holdover from ancient Motif, and are no longer found in current user interfaces on any platform. Because of that, I would strongly support deleting them altogether, rather than making available a c

[issue13884] IDLE: Remove tear-off menu feature

Ezio Melotti added the comment: I haven't seen any other program using it, so I wouldn't mind if they were removed. People with disabilities probably have better ways to deal with menus, but if adding the option is trivial it's probably better to add it. -- __

[issue13884] IDLE: Remove tear-off menu feature

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[issue13884] IDLE: Remove tear-off menu feature

Ned Deily added the comment: Keep in mind that tear-off menus are not supported on IDLE on OS X when using Aqua Tk (either Carbon or Cocoa), the standard these days. That's primarily because Aqua Tk uses native OS X menu bars which appear once at the top of the desktop, not in each window. T

[issue13884] IDLE: Remove tear-off menu feature

Serhiy Storchaka added the comment: Yes, please, make it a configuration feature (off by default). Tear-off menus useful for large and deeply nested menus. Do not forget about people with disabilities. -- nosy: +serhiy.storchaka ___ Python tracker

[issue13884] IDLE: Remove tear-off menu feature

Todd Rovito added the comment: Terry, I would not miss the feature at all this is very old school Unix like and most people find it confusing. At my job I tend to provide Python support to my co-workers and have had many questions about it. In addition I think #13504 meta issue provides ev

[issue13884] IDLE: Remove tear-off menu feature

Terry J. Reedy added the comment: I wonder if anyone uses this feature and would miss it if gone. Since it is a simple matter of passing 'tearoff=0/1' on menu creation, perhaps it should be a configuration feature. -- ___ Python tracker

[issue13884] IDLE: Remove tear-off menu feature

Changes by Terry J. Reedy : -- stage: -> patch review title: IDLE 2.6.5 Recent Files undocks -> IDLE: Remove tear-off menu feature type: -> enhancement versions: +Python 3.4 -Python 2.6 ___ Python tracker ___