[issue14502] Document better what happens on releasing an unacquired lock

2013-10-13 Thread Georg Brandl
Georg Brandl added the comment: This is now fixed for 2.7 (see #15829); no fix needed for 3.3+. -- resolution: - fixed status: open - closed ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue14502

[issue14502] Document better what happens on releasing an unacquired lock

2012-08-31 Thread Andrew Svetlov
Changes by Andrew Svetlov andrew.svet...@gmail.com: -- nosy: +asvetlov ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue14502 ___ ___

[issue14502] Document better what happens on releasing an unacquired lock

2012-06-06 Thread Petri Lehtinen
Petri Lehtinen pe...@digip.org added the comment: The docs of 2.7 and 3.2 still first say that RuntimeError is raised, and then that a ThreadError is raised: ... If an attempt is made to release an unlocked lock, a RuntimeError will be raised. ... Lock.release() ...

[issue14502] Document better what happens on releasing an unacquired lock

2012-04-09 Thread Vinay Sajip
Vinay Sajip vinay_sa...@yahoo.co.uk added the comment: Re. logging, logging._acquireLock and logging._releaseLock are not part of the public API and are undocumented at present. The case when _releaseLock does not raise an error is when threading couldn't be imported, so the _lock variable is

[issue14502] Document better what happens on releasing an unacquired lock

2012-04-09 Thread Jim Jewett
Jim Jewett jimjjew...@gmail.com added the comment: Vinay, The current question is what contract locks should follow, and whether all locks should follow it. Would it be acceptable for logging._releaseLock to raise a RuntimeError if the lock hadn't previously been acquired? In other words,

[issue14502] Document better what happens on releasing an unacquired lock

2012-04-09 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment: The current question is what contract locks should follow, and whether all locks should follow it. Would it be acceptable for logging._releaseLock to raise a RuntimeError if the lock hadn't previously been acquired? I don't see the point of

[issue14502] Document better what happens on releasing an unacquired lock

2012-04-09 Thread Georg Brandl
Georg Brandl ge...@python.org added the comment: Agreed. Jim, I think you're trying to get consistency where none is required. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue14502 ___

[issue14502] Document better what happens on releasing an unacquired lock

2012-04-08 Thread Jim Jewett
Jim Jewett jimjjew...@gmail.com added the comment: On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 10:32 PM, R. David Murray rep...@bugs.python.org wrote: R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com added the comment: I, on the other hand, would prefer if it were made part of the API contract that an error is raised,

[issue14502] Document better what happens on releasing an unacquired lock

2012-04-08 Thread R. David Murray
R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com added the comment: I think dummy_threading should be fixed (but only in 3.3, just in case it causes any backward compatibility issues with someone's code). Logging I'd leave to Vinay to decide about. I'm assuming that if any of the others devs nosy on

[issue14502] Document better what happens on releasing an unacquired lock

2012-04-06 Thread Roundup Robot
Roundup Robot devn...@psf.upfronthosting.co.za added the comment: New changeset 068a614e9d97 by Sandro Tosi in branch 'default': Issue #14502: it's RuntimeError on 3.3 http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/068a614e9d97 -- ___ Python tracker

[issue14502] Document better what happens on releasing an unacquired lock

2012-04-06 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment: On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Antoine Pitrou rep...@bugs.python.org wrote: Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment: Not sure what you're talking about. The doc patch is about unacquired locks, not locks that someone else

[issue14502] Document better what happens on releasing an unacquired lock

2012-04-06 Thread Jim Jewett
Jim Jewett jimjjew...@gmail.com added the comment: On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 5:57 AM, Antoine Pitrou rep...@bugs.python.org wrote: Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment: Not sure what you're talking about. The doc patch is about unacquired locks, not locks that someone else (another

[issue14502] Document better what happens on releasing an unacquired lock

2012-04-06 Thread R. David Murray
R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com added the comment: It doesn't matter *how* you get to the situation where you are releasing a lock that hasn't been acquired, the point is to document what actually happens when you do the release. And just yesterday I needed to know this, since I have a

[issue14502] Document better what happens on releasing an unacquired lock

2012-04-06 Thread Jim Jewett
Jim Jewett jimjjew...@gmail.com added the comment: I have a lock that may or may not be currently held when I release it, and now I know I can just catch RuntimeError in that case. Only if you're willing to make assumptions about the threading model and the source of locks. And I fear the

[issue14502] Document better what happens on releasing an unacquired lock

2012-04-06 Thread R. David Murray
R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com added the comment: I, on the other hand, would prefer if it were made part of the API contract that an error is raised, and to fix any stdlib implementations *of that API* that don't conform to that. (That is, locks from other modules may well not follow

[issue14502] Document better what happens on releasing an unacquired lock

2012-04-05 Thread Georg Brandl
New submission from Georg Brandl ge...@python.org: From d...@python.org: I recently ran into a situation where I could not be certain that a lock was currently in the acquired state. I checked the documentation to determine what would happen if I attempted to release a lock that was already

[issue14502] Document better what happens on releasing an unacquired lock

2012-04-05 Thread Sandro Tosi
Sandro Tosi sandro.t...@gmail.com added the comment: On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 09:06, Georg Brandl rep...@bugs.python.org wrote: I agree: if we know that a ThreadError will always be raised in this instance, we should document it as such. I've already prepared a small patch for that (every

[issue14502] Document better what happens on releasing an unacquired lock

2012-04-05 Thread Georg Brandl
Georg Brandl ge...@python.org added the comment: What different exceptions are they? Note that thread.error == _thread.error == threading.ThreadError. The docs should always use the last one (ThreadError). -- ___ Python tracker

[issue14502] Document better what happens on releasing an unacquired lock

2012-04-05 Thread Georg Brandl
Georg Brandl ge...@python.org added the comment: Ah, and I missed that apparently on 3.3, _thread.Error is aliased to RuntimeError. In that case you should use RuntimeError of course :) -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org

[issue14502] Document better what happens on releasing an unacquired lock

2012-04-05 Thread Roundup Robot
Roundup Robot devn...@psf.upfronthosting.co.za added the comment: New changeset efeca6ff2751 by Sandro Tosi in branch '2.7': Issue #14502: release() and unlocked lock generates a ThreadError http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/efeca6ff2751 New changeset acea9d95a6d8 by Sandro Tosi in branch '3.2':

[issue14502] Document better what happens on releasing an unacquired lock

2012-04-05 Thread Sandro Tosi
Changes by Sandro Tosi sandro.t...@gmail.com: -- resolution: - fixed stage: - committed/rejected status: open - closed ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue14502 ___

[issue14502] Document better what happens on releasing an unacquired lock

2012-04-05 Thread Jim Jewett
Jim Jewett jimjjew...@gmail.com added the comment: At least put the information inside some disclaimers about normally; even the stdlib has some fake locks that let you release a lock someone else holds. (I think I found them in in workarounds for threading not being available, such as the

[issue14502] Document better what happens on releasing an unacquired lock

2012-04-05 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment: At least put the information inside some disclaimers about normally; even the stdlib has some fake locks that let you release a lock someone else holds. Not sure what you're talking about. The doc patch is about unacquired locks, not locks

[issue14502] Document better what happens on releasing an unacquired lock

2012-04-05 Thread Jim Jewett
Jim Jewett jimjjew...@gmail.com added the comment: On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Antoine Pitrou rep...@bugs.python.org wrote: Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment: Not sure what you're talking about. The doc patch is about unacquired locks, not locks that someone else (another