[issue18655] GUI apps take long to launch on Windows

2013-08-09 Thread Terry J. Reedy

Terry J. Reedy added the comment:

This tracker is for patching CPython, not Windows or 3rd-party C libraries. 
Ramchandra is right, Python does not display windows. In the cases you mention, 
this is done by 3-rd party cross-platform graphics libraries interacting with 
Windows' native graphics system. The fact that you have noticed the slow first 
launch with all 3 suggests that the problem is generic to Windows and how it 
initializes dlls that connect to Windows graphics system.

I have the impression that this phenomenon is limited neither to Python nor to 
gui apps. One 'remedy' used by some apps is to load a 'quickstart' background 
process as part of startup. But that makes the boot or login process longer.

In the absence of evidence that there is anything specifically wrong and 
fixable in CPython, I am closing this.

Tim or Brian, if either of you think me mistaken, please re-open.

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nosy: +brian.curtin, terry.reedy, tim.golden
resolution:  - invalid
stage:  - committed/rejected
status: open - closed

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[issue18655] GUI apps take long to launch on Windows

2013-08-04 Thread netrick

New submission from netrick:

On both Python 2 or 3, when you have GUI app (for example something in pygame 
or pyside or tk), when you launch it on Windows it takes about 4-6 seconds to 
display the Window for the first run. The next runs are faster, but only untill 
you reboot the PC.

The thing is that on Linux even when launching the script for first time ever, 
the GUI Window shows instantly. 

Something how Python displays windows on Windows is wrong, there is something 
that causes the serious lag.

You can see it very easy with IDLE. On Linux it launches instantly, on Windows 
XP on the same PC takes about 6 seconds to launch. I asked other people with 
different config and they have the same issue on Windows.

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components: Windows
messages: 194374
nosy: netrick
priority: normal
severity: normal
status: open
title: GUI apps take long to launch on Windows
type: performance
versions: Python 2.7, Python 3.3

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[issue18655] GUI apps take long to launch on Windows

2013-08-04 Thread Ramchandra Apte

Ramchandra Apte added the comment:

Can you provide a short script that reproduces this problem?
AFAIK, Python doesn't display windows, the tcl/pygame libraries' C code creates 
the windows.

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[issue18655] GUI apps take long to launch on Windows

2013-08-04 Thread netrick

netrick added the comment:

The simplest way to reproduce it is:

1) Reboot your PC
2) Launch IDLE (pre-installed with Python)
3) Look how long it takes to launch and then compare that with instant launch 
on Linux

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