[issue20265] Bring Windows docs up to date

[Mariatta]

Mariatta  added the comment:

I think this is done, so I'm going to close it.
Thanks all who participated. If there are more updates needed to the Windows 
documentation, I would suggest creating specific tickets with specific 
problems, instead of one big catchall ticket.

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resolution:  -> fixed
stage: needs patch -> resolved
status: open -> closed

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[issue20265] Bring Windows docs up to date

[Mark Lawrence]

Change by Mark Lawrence :


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[issue20265] Bring Windows docs up to date

[Sourav Singh]

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The issue is beileve is fixed now.

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[issue20265] Bring Windows docs up to date

[ingrid]

ingrid added the comment:

Hi Kathleen, I was just curious why you dropped the changes from 
Doc/using/windows.rst on your latest patch as they looked useful to me. I know 
there's some review going on outside this thread, so apologies if I'm missing 
something you already went over.

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[issue20265] Bring Windows docs up to date

[Kathleen Weaver]

Kathleen Weaver added the comment:

Latest update

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[issue20265] Bring Windows docs up to date

[Kathleen Weaver]

Kathleen Weaver added the comment:

New patch

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[issue20265] Bring Windows docs up to date

[Kathleen Weaver]

Kathleen Weaver added the comment:

New patch with corrections from review.

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[issue20265] Bring Windows docs up to date

[Mark Lawrence]

Mark Lawrence added the comment:

IIRC PTVS can't be used with the express editions so please mention this.

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[issue20265] Bring Windows docs up to date

[Kathleen Weaver]

Kathleen Weaver added the comment:

There is also a separate version of the Python Tools depending on which version 
of Visual Studio.  I'm testing this out, and may add it to the current patch.

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[issue20265] Bring Windows docs up to date

[Kathleen Weaver]

Kathleen Weaver added the comment:

I just figured out why Windows 8 isn't behaving the way the documentation says.

You have to use Command Prompt (Admin).   Command Prompt (the first option 
IGNORES the path)

Now it's time to have a discussion with a Windows Project Manager.

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[issue20265] Bring Windows docs up to date

[Kathleen Weaver]

Kathleen Weaver added the comment:

I think I've incorporated everything wanted, and simplified things.

Instead of going through how to change environment variables, I've pointed to 
another source.

I've added the VS tools.

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[issue20265] Bring Windows docs up to date

[Kathleen Weaver]

Kathleen Weaver added the comment:

I think I've incorporated everything wanted, and simplified things.

Instead of going through how to change environment variables, I've pointed to 
another source.

I've added the VS tools.

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[issue20265] Bring Windows docs up to date

[Kathleen Weaver]

Changes by Kathleen Weaver kathl...@kweaver.org:


Removed file: http://bugs.python.org/file34409/windowsDoc.patch

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[issue20265] Bring Windows docs up to date

[Kathleen Weaver]

Changes by Kathleen Weaver kathl...@kweaver.org:


Removed file: http://bugs.python.org/file34437/kweaver.patch

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[issue20265] Bring Windows docs up to date

[Kathleen Weaver]

Changes by Kathleen Weaver kathl...@kweaver.org:


Removed file: http://bugs.python.org/file34474/kweaver.patch

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[issue20265] Bring Windows docs up to date

[Nick Coghlan]

Nick Coghlan added the comment:

Sorry I haven't had a chance to review this myself, but it would also be good 
if we could mention the free Python Tools for Visual Studio addon that 
Microsoft publish (https://pytools.codeplex.com/). That may be better handled 
as a separate patch/issue though.

(My apologies if that has already been mentioned in the updated docs)

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[issue20265] Bring Windows docs up to date

[Kathleen Weaver]

Kathleen Weaver added the comment:

I've gone through everything and cleaned things up per zach.ware review.

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[issue20265] Bring Windows docs up to date

[Éric Araujo]

Changes by Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org:


Removed file: http://bugs.python.org/file34386/windowsDoc.patch

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[issue20265] Bring Windows docs up to date

[Éric Araujo]

Changes by Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org:


Removed file: http://bugs.python.org/file34403/windowsDoc.patch

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[issue20265] Bring Windows docs up to date

[Zachary Ware]

Zachary Ware added the comment:

Éric Araujo wrote:
 From #20265:

Correction, this is #20265, that message was from #20266 :)

Kathleen: both Éric and I have left some review comments for you in Rietveld, 
which should have sent you an email with the comments and links to the Rietveld 
review.

Also, if you're having end-of-line issues, I would recommend turning on the 
Mercurial eol extension (either edit %userprofile%\Mercurial.ini manually, or 
use the Extensions section of File - Settings... from TortoiseHg Workbench).  
To work most effectively, you'll need to update to the 'null' revision, then 
update back to default after turning on eol.  That will ensure that most files 
have \r\n line endings and hg can keep line endings straight for you thereafter.

Here's a sample of my Mercurial.ini with some other things you may be 
interested in:

[extensions]
;keep eols straight
eol=

;delete untracked files (helps with starting from a clean slate)
purge=

;colorize output, including making trailing whitespace visible in diffs
color=

;create several clones that share history, useful for keeping
;separate clones per branch without having to pull individually
share=

[defaults]
;don't try to commit when importing a patch
import = --no-commit

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[issue20265] Bring Windows docs up to date

[Kathleen Weaver]

Kathleen Weaver added the comment:

It was Visual Studio that messed up the end of line feeds, it keep telling me 
that there was a problem but I didn't know what it meant.  Erik and I were in 
#pyladies and he really helped me.

As soon as I get done with gym and other mundane errands I will get back on 
this.

I can't get over how helpful and nice everyone is! smile

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Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:29:14 AM
To: Kathleen Weaver
Subject: [issue20265] Bring Windows docs up to date

Zachary Ware added the comment:

Éric Araujo wrote:
 From #20265:

Correction, this is #20265, that message was from #20266 :)

Kathleen: both Éric and I have left some review comments for you in Rietveld, 
which should have sent you an email with the comments and links to the Rietveld 
review.

Also, if you're having end-of-line issues, I would recommend turning on the 
Mercurial eol extension (either edit %userprofile%\Mercurial.ini manually, or 
use the Extensions section of File - Settings... from TortoiseHg Workbench).  
To work most effectively, you'll need to update to the 'null' revision, then 
update back to default after turning on eol.  That will ensure that most files 
have \r\n line endings and hg can keep line endings straight for you thereafter.

Here's a sample of my Mercurial.ini with some other things you may be 
interested in:

[extensions]
;keep eols straight
eol=

;delete untracked files (helps with starting from a clean slate)
purge=

;colorize output, including making trailing whitespace visible in diffs
color=

;create several clones that share history, useful for keeping
;separate clones per branch without having to pull individually
share=

[defaults]
;don't try to commit when importing a patch
import = --no-commit

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[issue20265] Bring Windows docs up to date

[Kathleen Weaver]

Kathleen Weaver added the comment:

I have updated the files as reflected by the code review.

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[issue20265] Bring Windows docs up to date

[Kathleen Weaver]

Kathleen Weaver added the comment:

Could we make this a separate issue, and I will work on it next?

From #20265:

The faq doesn't mention the new launcher for Windows.  Rather than write too 
much I'd simply cross reference this 
http://docs.python.org/3/using/windows.html#python-launcher-for-windows.  I 
think this also impacts on the section How do I make Python scripts 
executable?.

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[issue20265] Bring Windows docs up to date

[Kathleen Weaver]

Kathleen Weaver added the comment:

I've added a paragraph to the FAQ that refers to the Python Launcher as Éric 
Araujo suggested.

So sorry, but new patch.

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