Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
This is really needed. A number of recent threads on python-list indicate that
beginners are having problems with using pip.
Donald, can you answer Saimadhav's questions two messages above?
Saimadhav, can you post whatever you have done so far?
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Saimadhav Heblikar added the comment:
The proof of concept is almost ready.
I have a couple of questions to anyone familiar with pip api (and on windows
for question 2)
1. Is a restart of the interpreter absolutely required for
pip.operations.freeze.freeze() to reflect
Mark Lawrence added the comment:
I think that on Windows you might have to assume that the user has the rights
to install to site-packages, regardless of where the Python version is
installed. Please see https://docs.python.org/dev/using/windows.html for the
installation screen for 3.5. If
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
PS. I am fine with your initial plan.
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Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
On Windows, I think we should consider directly supportting
http://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/
Unofficial Windows Binaries for Python Extension Packages
When possible, this has 2.6, 2.7, 3.3, and 3.4 binaries for 32 and 64 bits.
I and others use this
Mark Lawrence added the comment:
I really do think we should support Christoph's site. It has saved me many a
headache over the years. For beginners it's also got to be preferable to
seeing the rather cryptic Unable to find vcvarsall.bat message, plus how many
of them want to install VS?
Saimadhav Heblikar added the comment:
For the initial version here is what I plan to code:
A single package manager entry in a suitable menu. This would open a dialog
window
containing options for (inspired from msg236906).
1. Show installed packages(freeze)
This menu would have
Changes by Peter Otten __pete...@web.de:
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Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Yes, this would complement your checker patch from last summer. It would solve
the issue of how to tell or help people, especially beginners, install packages
to run with the checker.
Idea for the package manager: include an option to duplicate a set of
Saimadhav Heblikar added the comment:
Hi,
I would like to work on this. Give me a day or two to come up with my design
plan, for feedback.
Let me know please if this feature addition is being considered.
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Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Raymond, I have had a very vague idea of doing something like this. Thanks for
posting something more concrete. I share the sentiments of your last sentence.
Reading Stackoverflow, it is apparent that some people with two+ Python
versions do not know that a
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Thinking a bit more, the Idle entry point could be one entry, 'Install
Packages' or 'Manage Packages' on the Options menu (or maybe Help menu). I am
not sure that the new window would need a submenu, as I think everything listed
in the opening post could fit
Donald Stufft added the comment:
I'm unlikely to have the time or motivation to do this anytime soon (just to be
clear). I would be able to advise anyone who does feel like doing it the best
ways to interact with pip itself though.
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New submission from Raymond Hettinger:
In teaching Python, I find that many Windows users are command-line challenged
and have difficulties using and accessing PIP. In the spirit of what Tortoise
has done for version control, I propose that menu options be added for PIP.
PyPI (Python Package
Donald Stufft added the comment:
I don't know if this should be part of IDLE or not, but I've long wondered if
we should make a GUI frontend for pip. To be clear, I'm not against this being
in IDLE either, but just saying I've thought about making a pip-gui project in
the past, I just haven't
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