[issue23937] IDLE: revise window size, placement startup options

Tal Einat added the comment: > When I changed the title, I intended to broaden the issue beyond 'start > maximized'. Even for that, there are two possibilities. 1. Configure option > (default as now). 2. Save 'current' position, which helps non-maximizers > also. So I am inclined to the

[issue23937] IDLE: revise window size, placement startup options

Tal Einat added the comment: > There is a subtle issue easy to not notice. Scrolling is slightly different > when the window height an integral number of lines, as it now is on startup, > or pixels, as after resizing with zoom or mouse grab. I believe 'lines' is > enough better that I

[issue23937] IDLE: revise window size, placement startup options

Terry J. Reedy added the comment: When I changed the title, I intended to broaden the issue beyond 'start maximized'. Even for that, there are two possibilities. 1. Configure option (default as now). 2. Save 'current' position, which helps non-maximizers also. So I am inclined to the

[issue23937] IDLE: revise window size, placement startup options

Tal Einat added the comment: In terms of its interface, IDLE is more like a REPL + text editor than what is commonly thought of as programming IDEs (Visual Studio, PyCharm/IDEA, Matlab, JupyterLab etc.) Terminals and text editors almost universally do not launch maximized by default.

[issue23937] IDLE: revise window size, placement startup options

Change by E. Paine : -- pull_requests: +24610 pull_request: https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/25946 ___ Python tracker ___ ___

[issue23937] IDLE: revise window size, placement startup options

E. Paine added the comment: > I think we are at the point where the General tab needs to be split into 2 > tabs, or else widened I definitely agree (possibly split into "Window" and "Editor/Shell"), but that would be a separate PEP wouldn't it (possibly one that needs to be pulled before

[issue23937] IDLE: revise window size, placement startup options

Terry J. Reedy added the comment: I think we are at the point where the General tab needs to be split into 2 tabs, or else widened. On my Macbook, the bottom buttons are not visible. One of the constraints of any change is that .idlerc/config-main.cfg remain compatible with older releases.

[issue23937] IDLE: revise window size, placement startup options

E. Paine added the comment: Sorry, two more things: 1: Can someone please check this behaves properly on MacOS (I have checked on Windows and Linux) 2: Is setting the checkbutton side to "TOP" correct, or is there a better way of achieving the same layout? --

[issue23937] IDLE: revise window size, placement startup options

E. Paine added the comment: I have made a few simple changes to the configdialog.py, config-main.def & editor.py which adds a "Maximised" checkbutton to the general page (just above the existing entries). The default is for this to be false (based on the previous comments in this PEP), but

[issue23937] IDLE: revise window size, placement startup options

Change by E. Paine : -- keywords: +patch nosy: +epaine nosy_count: 4.0 -> 5.0 pull_requests: +19136 stage: -> patch review pull_request: https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/19816 ___ Python tracker

[issue23937] IDLE: revise window size, placement startup options

Changes by Terry J. Reedy tjre...@udel.edu: -- title: IDLE start maximized - IDLE: revise window size, placement startup options ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue23937 ___