[issue34313] IDLE crashes with Tk-related error on macOS with ActiveTcl 8.6

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[issue34313] IDLE crashes with Tk-related error on macOS with ActiveTcl 8.6

Ned Deily added the comment: If I understand correctly, this is not a release blocker issue. The most up-to-date documentation for which Tcl/Tk to use on macOS has been and remains: https://www.python.org/download/mac/tcltk/ The entire https://docs.python.org/3/using/mac.html section

[issue34313] IDLE crashes with Tk-related error on macOS with ActiveTcl 8.6

Terry J. Reedy added the comment: Current Mac installers do contain hopefully tested tcl/tk installers. (This has always been true for the Windows installers.) We are not responsible if users use anything else with Python. -- ___ Python tracker

[issue34313] IDLE crashes with Tk-related error on macOS with ActiveTcl 8.6

Vlad Tudorache added the comment: @terry.reedy Maybe "users are urged to install the most recent bug-fix releases" is a little bit misleading. As I wrote, Tcl/Tk 8.5.18 does not give crashes on macOS, when both 8.5.17 and 8.5.19 (bug-fix) do. Some times ago, if I remember well, the same

[issue34313] IDLE crashes with Tk-related error on macOS with ActiveTcl 8.6

Terry J. Reedy added the comment: I think that the resolution of this issue should be revision of at least the tkinter paragraph in https://docs.python.org/3/using/mac.html#gui-programming-on-the-mac, and I think at least the tkinter revision should be cherry-picked into the upcoming

[issue34313] IDLE crashes with Tk-related error on macOS with ActiveTcl 8.6

Vlad Tudorache added the comment: Yes, like in the Pythonic Tk 8.6.[:8] :), starting at version 8.6.8 (-dev, too) I see no crash. Tcl/Tk 8.6.8 is built by myself (the last time I checked there was no 8.6.8 built on ActiveState). As for the old 8.5 series, only 8.5.18 works with the dual

[issue34313] IDLE crashes with Tk-related error on macOS with ActiveTcl 8.6

Tal Einat added the comment: Vlad, you previously mentioned that with Tcl/Tk 8.6.8 you also didn't see this issue. Have you tried building Tcl/Tk 8.6.8 yourself? When I did so everything worked fine. -- ___ Python tracker

[issue34313] IDLE crashes with Tk-related error on macOS with ActiveTcl 8.6

Vlad Tudorache added the comment: @taleinat The issues appear with both Tk 8.6.[:8] and (8.5.[:18] + 8.5.[19:], just in case you update the docs. For 32/64 bit installers on macOS, the only version (built by myself or ActiveState) without crashes is 8.5.18 (on my Mac). -- versions:

[issue34313] IDLE crashes with Tk-related error on macOS with ActiveTcl 8.6

Tal Einat added the comment: I couldn't reproduce this issue with any of the 3.7.1rc1 and 3.6.7rc1 installers from python.org on my macOS. This certainly seems like an issue with Tcl/Tk versions before 8.6.8. It is unfortunate that ActiveState have still not released ActiveTcl 8.6.8; the

[issue34313] IDLE crashes with Tk-related error on macOS with ActiveTcl 8.6

Terry J. Reedy added the comment: Since this was opened, I have opened files in the editor, without incident with both installed 3.7.0 and 3.7.1rc1 (64 bit). Should this still stay open? Does anyony have any problems with the current release candidates? --

[issue34313] IDLE crashes with Tk-related error on macOS with ActiveTcl 8.6

Tal Einat added the comment: I can confirm the these issues do *not* occur on my macOS setup when using tcl/tk 8.6.8 built from source. -- ___ Python tracker ___

[issue34313] IDLE crashes with Tk-related error on macOS with ActiveTcl 8.6

Vlad Tudorache added the comment: I was telling only that I've seen myself the issues with some Tcl/Tk versions. As I often build Tcl/Tk on macOS, I can confirm that on 8.6.8 I didn't see issues (those were effectively present in (ActiveState or not) Tcl 8.5.18, 8.5.19, 8.6.6, 8.6.7. The

[issue34313] IDLE crashes with Tk-related error on macOS with ActiveTcl 8.6

Kevin Walzer added the comment: The crash reported by the OP did show up at times in recent releases of Tk 8.6.x, but a lot of work went into refactoring memory management in 8.6.8 and those problems do not seem present in the current release (8.6.7 is a year old). I'd try updating to 8.6.8

[issue34313] IDLE crashes with Tk-related error on macOS with ActiveTcl 8.6

Terry J. Reedy added the comment: Kevin, more tk mac issues. -- nosy: +wordtech ___ Python tracker ___ ___ Python-bugs-list

[issue34313] IDLE crashes with Tk-related error on macOS with ActiveTcl 8.6

Vlad Tudorache added the comment: The problem shows itself on macOS High Sierra in some Tk Demos, independently of Python's IDLE. So there is something completely different, to report to the Tcl/Tk community. Strangely, I didn't notice the issues on Sierra, but I have no Sierra Mac right

[issue34313] IDLE crashes with Tk-related error on macOS with ActiveTcl 8.6

Vlad Tudorache added the comment: I confirm the crashes. I've tried with personal builds of python 3.5, 3.6, 3.7, with ActiveTcl and personal builds of Tcl 8.6.x, the problem does not appear with 8.5.18, but shows itself with 8.5.19 (strange, API changes?). I'll try to investigate.

[issue34313] IDLE crashes with Tk-related error on macOS with ActiveTcl 8.6

Terry J. Reedy added the comment: I presume then that you tested PR8603 without opening an editor (which is certainly possible). 10.13.6 was released in the last month. PCBuild/build.bat -e downloads missing external dependency source code into externals/ and then compiles it into

[issue34313] IDLE crashes with Tk-related error on macOS with ActiveTcl 8.6

New submission from Tal Einat : On macOS 10.13.5 (the latest available) with ActiveTcl 8.6.7 (the latest available), I'm building Python from latest master (to be 3.8.0). I'm consistently having IDLE crash almost immediately, just by opening any file for editing. The crash results in the