[issue9867] Interrupted system calls are not retried
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[issue9867] Interrupted system calls are not retried
Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment: This has been fixed in issue #10956 (Python 3 and the io module) and issue #12268 (Python 2's file objects). -- components: +Interpreter Core resolution: - out of date status: open - closed versions: -Python 3.1 ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9867 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9867] Interrupted system calls are not retried
Changes by Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr: -- resolution: out of date - duplicate superseder: - file readline, readlines readall methods can lose data on EINTR versions: -Python 3.2, Python 3.3 ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9867 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9867] Interrupted system calls are not retried
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[issue9867] Interrupted system calls are not retried
Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment: I fail to see why this is a bug. If the system call is interrupted, why should Python not report that? -- nosy: +loewis ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9867 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9867] Interrupted system calls are not retried
Armin Ronacher armin.ronac...@active-4.com added the comment: One could argue of course that every user of Python should handle EINTR, but that's something I think should be solved in the IO library because very few people know that one is supposed to restart syscalls on EINTR on POSIX systems. Ruby for instance handles EINTR properly: mitsuh...@nausicaa:~$ ruby -e 'puts $stdin.read.inspect' ^Z [1]+ Stopped mitsuh...@nausicaa:~$ fg ruby -e 'puts $stdin.read.inspect' test test\n So does perl: mitsuh...@nausicaa:~$ perl -e 'chomp($x = STDIN); print $x' ^Z [1]+ Stopped mitsuh...@nausicaa:~$ fg perl -e 'chomp($x = STDIN); print $x' test test -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9867 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9867] Interrupted system calls are not retried
Armin Ronacher armin.ronac...@active-4.com added the comment: Interestingly even PHP handles that properly. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9867 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9867] Interrupted system calls are not retried
Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment: One could argue of course that every user of Python should handle EINTR, but that's something I think should be solved in the IO library because very few people know that one is supposed to restart syscalls on EINTR on POSIX systems. Ruby for instance handles EINTR properly: Hmm. So under what conditions should it continue, and under what conditions should it raise an exception (when errno is EINTR)? -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9867 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9867] Interrupted system calls are not retried
Armin Ronacher armin.ronac...@active-4.com added the comment: Hmm. So under what conditions should it continue, and under what conditions should it raise an exception (when errno is EINTR)? EINTR indicates a temporary failure. In that case it should always retry. A common macro for handling that might look like this: #define RETRY_ON_EINTR(x) ({ \ typeof(x) rv; \ do { rv = x; } while (rv 0 errno == EINTR); \ rv;\ }) But from what I understand, braces in parentheses are a GCC extension. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9867 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9867] Interrupted system calls are not retried
Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment: Am 16.09.10 14:06, schrieb Armin Ronacher: Armin Ronacherarmin.ronac...@active-4.com added the comment: Hmm. So under what conditions should it continue, and under what conditions should it raise an exception (when errno is EINTR)? EINTR indicates a temporary failure. In that case it should always retry. But Ruby doesn't. If you send SIGINT, it will print -e:1:in `read': Interrupt from -e:1 If you send SIGHUP, it will print Hangup So it is surely more complex than always retry. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9867 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9867] Interrupted system calls are not retried
Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.com added the comment: Wouldn't retrying on EINTR cause havoc when you try to interrupt a process? That is: what would happen with the proposed patch when a python script does a read that takes a very long time and the user tries to interrupt the script (by using Ctrl+C to send a SIGTERM)? If I my understanding of is correct the patch will ensure that the process does not get interupted because the default SIGTERM handler just sets a flag that's periodicly checked in the python interpreter loop. With the proposed patch python would not get around to checking that flag until the I/O operation is finished. -- nosy: +ronaldoussoren ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9867 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9867] Interrupted system calls are not retried
Armin Ronacher armin.ronac...@active-4.com added the comment: The following minimal C code shows how EINTR can be handled: #include stdlib.h #include stdio.h #include errno.h #include signal.h #define BUFFER_SIZE 1024 int main() { char buffer[BUFFER_SIZE]; printf(PID = %d\n, getpid()); while (1) { int rv = fgetc(stdin); if (rv 0) { if (feof(stdin)) break; if (errno == EINTR) continue; printf(Call failed with %d\n, errno); return 1; } else fputc(rv, stdout); } return 0; } Test application: mitsuh...@nausicaa:/tmp$ ./a.out PID = 22806 Terminated mitsuh...@nausicaa:/tmp$ ./a.out PID = 22809 mitsuh...@nausicaa:/tmp$ ./a.out PID = 22812 ^Z [2]+ Stopped ./a.out mitsuh...@nausicaa:/tmp$ fg ./a.out test test foo foo First signal sent was TERM, second was INT. Last case was sending to background, receiving the ignored SIGCONT signal, fgetc returning -1 and fgetc being called again because of errno being EINTR. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9867 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9867] Interrupted system calls are not retried
Armin Ronacher armin.ronac...@active-4.com added the comment: Wouldn't retrying on EINTR cause havoc when you try to interrupt a process? All your C applications are doing it, why should Python cause havok there? Check the POSIX specification on that if you don't trust me. That is: what would happen with the proposed patch when a python script does a read that takes a very long time and the user tries to interrupt the script (by using Ctrl+C to send a SIGTERM)? EINTR is only returned if nothing was read so far and the call was interrupted in case of fread. Here a quick explanation from the GNU's libc manual: http://www.gnu.org/s/libc/manual/html_node/Interrupted-Primitives.html -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9867 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9867] Interrupted system calls are not retried
Armin Ronacher armin.ronac...@active-4.com added the comment: There is a funny story related to that though :) BSD avoids EINTR entirely and provides a more convenient approach: to restart the interrupted primitive, instead of making it fail. BSD does, but the Mach/XNU kernel combo on OS X is not. Which is why all the shipped BSD tools have that bug, but if you run their GNU equivalents on OS X everything work as expected. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9867 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9867] Interrupted system calls are not retried
Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment: Some parts of the stdlib already retry manually (such as SocketIO, subprocess, multiprocessing, socket.sendall), so it doesn't sound unreasonable for the IO lib to retry too. There are/were other people complaining in similar cases: #7978, #1628205. -- nosy: +benjamin.peterson, exarkun, pitrou, stutzbach versions: -Python 3.3 ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9867 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9867] Interrupted system calls are not retried
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[issue9867] Interrupted system calls are not retried
Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.com added the comment: On 16 Sep, 2010, at 14:36, Armin Ronacher wrote: Armin Ronacher armin.ronac...@active-4.com added the comment: Wouldn't retrying on EINTR cause havoc when you try to interrupt a process? All your C applications are doing it, why should Python cause havok there? Check the POSIX specification on that if you don't trust me. That is: what would happen with the proposed patch when a python script does a read that takes a very long time and the user tries to interrupt the script (by using Ctrl+C to send a SIGTERM)? EINTR is only returned if nothing was read so far and the call was interrupted in case of fread. Here a quick explanation from the GNU's libc manual: http://www.gnu.org/s/libc/manual/html_node/Interrupted-Primitives.html You conveniently didn't quote the part of my message where I explained why I think there may be a problem. CPython's signal handlers just set a global flag to indicate that a signal occurred and run the actual signal handler later on from the main interpreter loop, see signal_handler in Modules/signal.c and intcatcher in Parser/intrcheck.c. The latter contains the default handler for SIGINT and that already contains code that deals with SIGINT not having any effect (when you sent SIGINT twice in a row without CPython running pending calls the interpreter gets aborted). Because Python's signal handlers only set a flag and do the actual action later on blindly rerunning system calls when errno == EINTR may result in programs that don't seem to react to signals at all. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9867 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9867] Interrupted system calls are not retried
Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.com added the comment: On 16 Sep, 2010, at 14:38, Armin Ronacher wrote: Armin Ronacher armin.ronac...@active-4.com added the comment: There is a funny story related to that though :) BSD avoids EINTR entirely and provides a more convenient approach: to restart the interrupted primitive, instead of making it fail. BSD does, but the Mach/XNU kernel combo on OS X is not. Which is why all the shipped BSD tools have that bug, but if you run their GNU equivalents on OS X everything work as expected. setting the SA_RESTART in the call to sigaction should work (on OSX HAVE_SIGACTION is defined), unless the manpage is lying. Ronald -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9867 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9867] Interrupted system calls are not retried
Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment: Because Python's signal handlers only set a flag and do the actual action later on blindly rerunning system calls when errno == EINTR may result in programs that don't seem to react to signals at all. You just need to call PyErr_CheckSignals() and check its result. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9867 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9867] Interrupted system calls are not retried
Armin Ronacher armin.ronac...@active-4.com added the comment: setting the SA_RESTART in the call to sigaction should work (on OSX HAVE_SIGACTION is defined), unless the manpage is lying. It should work, haven't tried. From what I understand on a BSD system, retrying is the default. -- versions: +Python 3.3 ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9867 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9867] Interrupted system calls are not retried
Armin Ronacher armin.ronac...@active-4.com added the comment: You conveniently didn't quote the part of my message where I explained why I think there may be a problem. I understand that, but there are already cases in Python where EINTR is handled properly. In fact, quoting socketmodule.c: if (res == EINTR PyErr_CheckSignals()) -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9867 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9867] Interrupted system calls are not retried
Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.com added the comment: On 16 Sep, 2010, at 15:40, Armin Ronacher wrote: Armin Ronacher armin.ronac...@active-4.com added the comment: You conveniently didn't quote the part of my message where I explained why I think there may be a problem. I understand that, but there are already cases in Python where EINTR is handled properly. In fact, quoting socketmodule.c: if (res == EINTR PyErr_CheckSignals()) This looks fine. Ronald -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9867 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9867] Interrupted system calls are not retried on OS X
New submission from Armin Ronacher armin.ronac...@active-4.com: Currently Python does not check fread and other IO calls for EINTR. This usually is not an issue, but on OS X a continued program will be sent an SIGCONT signal which causes fread to be interrupted. Testcase: mitsuh...@nausicaa:~$ python2.7 Python 2.7 (r27:82508, Jul 3 2010, 21:12:11) [GCC 4.0.1 (Apple Inc. build 5493)] on darwin Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. from signal import SIGCONT, signal def show_signal(*args): ... print 'Got SIGCONT' ... signal(SIGCONT, show_signal) 0 import sys sys.stdin.read() ^Z [1]+ Stopped python2.7 mitsuh...@nausicaa:~$ fg python2.7 Got SIGCONT Traceback (most recent call last): File stdin, line 1, in module IOError: [Errno 4] Interrupted system call Expected behavior: on fg it should continue to read. The solution would be to loop all calls to fread and friends until errno is no longer EINTR. Now the question is how to best do that. I can't think of a portable way to define a macro that continues to run an expression until errno is EINTR, maybe someone else has an idea. Otherwise it would be possible to just put the loops by hand around each fread/fgetc etc. call, but that would make the code quite a bit more ugly. Technically I suppose the problem applies to all platforms, on OS X it's just easier to trigger. -- messages: 116504 nosy: aronacher priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: Interrupted system calls are not retried on OS X type: behavior versions: Python 2.5, Python 2.6, Python 2.7, Python 3.1, Python 3.2, Python 3.3 ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9867 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9867] Interrupted system calls are not retried
Ned Deily n...@acm.org added the comment: The test fails exactly the same way using a python 2.6.6 on a current Debian (testing) Linux 2.6.32 so I think it better to remove the OS X from the title. Also the versions field refers to where a potential fix might be applied; that rules out 2.5 and 2.6 since it is not a security problem. I was also curious if calling signal.siginterrupt for SIGCONT had any effect on this. Neither False nor True on either OS X or linux seemed to change the behavior. -- nosy: +ned.deily title: Interrupted system calls are not retried on OS X - Interrupted system calls are not retried versions: -Python 2.5, Python 2.6, Python 3.3 ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9867 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com