[issue18298] pythonw.exe fails with redirected stderr

2013-06-26 Thread anatoly techtonik
anatoly techtonik added the comment: I am not using pythonw.exe, it is the option users prefer to run the program. pythonw.exe is a binary, how do you propose to patch that? Or is it translated to .exe with RPython? Can you be more specific what shell does not work correctly, what exactly

[issue18298] pythonw.exe fails with redirected stderr

2013-06-26 Thread Amaury Forgeot d'Arc
Amaury Forgeot d'Arc added the comment: RPython... let's be serious. The code of pythonw.exe is very simple, see PC/WinMain.c. No, pythonw.exe is not meant to suppresses the terminal window on startup. This is only a consequence of being a windows application. There is a lot of documentation

[issue18298] pythonw.exe fails with redirected stderr

2013-06-25 Thread anatoly techtonik
Changes by anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com: -- components: +Windows ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue18298 ___ ___

[issue18298] pythonw.exe fails with redirected stderr

2013-06-25 Thread anatoly techtonik
Changes by anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com: -- title: pythonw.exe fails with redirected stdett - pythonw.exe fails with redirected stderr ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue18298

[issue18298] pythonw.exe fails with redirected stderr

2013-06-25 Thread anatoly techtonik
anatoly techtonik added the comment: This subprocess.communicate() call fails with pythonw.exe --cut testhg.py-- import subprocess hg = hg output, _err = subprocess.Popen([hg, 'id', '-nib'], stdout=subprocess.PIPE).communicate() open(-hg-, w).write(output) --cut testhg.py--

[issue18298] pythonw.exe fails with redirected stderr

2013-06-25 Thread anatoly techtonik
anatoly techtonik added the comment: This was meant to be a separate issue. :/ -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue18298 ___ ___

[issue18298] pythonw.exe fails with redirected stderr

2013-06-25 Thread Amaury Forgeot d'Arc
Amaury Forgeot d'Arc added the comment: Yes, in pythonw.exe the C stderr is not really usable, and this leads to unpredictable results. It's difficult to fix in python2 though; python3 has fixed this issue, but in a way that cannot be backported. Some workarounds: - don't use pythonw.exe in a

[issue18298] pythonw.exe fails with redirected stderr

2013-06-25 Thread anatoly techtonik
anatoly techtonik added the comment: It is not about modifying Python in general, it is about patching pythonw.exe or subprocess or documenting how to make subprocess calls compatible with pythonw.exe don't use pythonw.exe in a console And how to debug the issue? Maybe the only solution in

[issue18298] pythonw.exe fails with redirected stderr

2013-06-25 Thread Amaury Forgeot d'Arc
Amaury Forgeot d'Arc added the comment: The proper solution if you use pythonw.exe is to define sys.stdout/sys.stderr yourself in pythonw.exe:: sys.stdout = open('c:/temp/output.txt', 'w') IOW, do the redirect from inside the program, don't rely on the shell which (by design?) does not