[issue27647] Update Windows build to Tcl/Tk 8.6.6

[Terry J. Reedy]

Terry J. Reedy added the comment:

AFAIK, the Windows x.y compiled release and installer is normally updated to 
the latest stable tcl/tk, about the time of beta 1, and never changed for 
bugfix releases.  2.7 was an exception because of its long life and because 
later 8.5.z releases has some critical bugfixes, such as working with European 
keyboards.

I believe the current OSX binary compiles _tkinter against tcl/tk 8.5, and we 
recommend replacing the Apple's old 8.5 with the latest 8.5 from ActiveState, 
and that people who instead install ActiveState 8.6 have to make or obtain a 
new Python binary that compiles _tkinter for 8.6. (Prior to Py3.6, there was 
also a Mac release for older Macs, and it was compiled for tcl/tk 8.4.)

We don't compile Python on *nix and there are multiple versions of tcl/tk in 
use.  I would prefer to have the latest tcl/tk at least for bugfixes, and a 
Python binary that can use if, even if tkinter does not give access to the 
latest tk features.

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[issue27647] Update Windows build to Tcl/Tk 8.6.6

[Joshua Kinard]

Joshua Kinard added the comment:

@Terry: This only applies on the Windows release of Python.  On both Linux and 
FreeBSD, you can wind up with Python 2.7 and Tk-8.6.x by default in some 
instances:

# pkg info | grep python27
python27-2.7.13_1  Interpreted object-oriented programming language
# pkg info | grep tk86
tk86-8.6.6 Graphical toolkit for Tcl

That's a FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE install on a laptop.

Is there guidance anywhere on which Tk version a given Python version prefers 
to be used with?  E.g., is Python 2.7 only supported against Tk-8.5.x, leaving 
8.6.x users on their own?

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[issue27647] Update Windows build to Tcl/Tk 8.6.6

[Larry Hastings]

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I don't think we should update it in 3.5.  That sounds destabilizing.

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[issue27647] Update Windows build to Tcl/Tk 8.6.6

[Terry J. Reedy]

Terry J. Reedy added the comment:

Changing tk in 2.7.z from 8.5 to 8.6 would add new features, which we don't 
usually do in bugfix releases.

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[issue27647] Update Windows build to Tcl/Tk 8.6.6

[Joshua Kinard]

Joshua Kinard added the comment:

Hi,

I came across a StackOverflow question that apparently turned up a bug in Tk 
itself with regards to Spinboxes on Windows Aero themes.  The question is here:
http://stackoverflow.com/q/30783603/

And I did a deep-dive of the issue here as the accepted answer:
http://stackoverflow.com/a/36393680/

This led to someone from Tk noticing, and they patched the bug in Tk upstream 
in this commit:
http://core.tcl.tk/tk/info/f91b7065bf1bf655

I do not know if that commit is in a current Tk release (doubtful).  Could you 
guys look at picking it up for the next Python 2.7/3.x release?  It only 
affects Windows platforms using Aero.  Classic mode spinboxes or other Tk 
themes (e.g., clam) are unaffected.

It'd also be awesome if Tk-8.6 could go into the next Python 2.7 release under 
Windows.  That has PNG support for Tk's PhotoImage class, which would make 
working with icons and transparency a *lot* easier.

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[issue27647] Update Windows build to Tcl/Tk 8.6.6

[Ned Deily]

Ned Deily added the comment:

Please don't change Mac/BuildScript.  The code there to build Tcl and Tk is 
currently not used.

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[issue27647] Update Windows build to Tcl/Tk 8.6.6

[Serhiy Storchaka]

Serhiy Storchaka added the comment:

Proposed patch updates Tcl/Tk versions to 8.5.19 and Tix version to 8.4.3.6 in 
Python 2.7 on Windows and Mac OS X. But needed to update 
http://svn.python.org/projects/external/ . Is there special script or 
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[issue27647] Update Windows build to Tcl/Tk 8.6.6

[Benjamin Peterson]

Benjamin Peterson added the comment:

I don't mind if it gets updated.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016, at 00:01, Serhiy Storchaka wrote:
> 
> Serhiy Storchaka added the comment:
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> Why not? 8.5.15 is 3 years old. There were 4 bugfix releases since it.
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[issue27647] Update Windows build to Tcl/Tk 8.6.6

[Serhiy Storchaka]

Serhiy Storchaka added the comment:

Why not? 8.5.15 is 3 years old. There were 4 bugfix releases since it.

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[issue27647] Update Windows build to Tcl/Tk 8.6.6

[Benjamin Peterson]

Benjamin Peterson added the comment:

Doesn't seem terribly urgent, so maybe not 2.7.13.

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[issue27647] Update Windows build to Tcl/Tk 8.6.6

[Serhiy Storchaka]

Serhiy Storchaka added the comment:

Larry, Benjamin, what do you think about updating the version of Tcl/Tk shipped 
with 3.5 and 2.7 on Windows?

Tcl/Tk 8.6.6 Jul 27, 2016
Tcl/Tk 8.5.19 Feb 12, 2016

Currently used releases:

In 3.5: 8.6.4.2
In 2.7: 8.5.15.0

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[issue27647] Update Windows build to Tcl/Tk 8.6.6

[Terry J. Reedy]

Terry J. Reedy added the comment:

I think 3.4 and 3.5 were pretty current as of .0 release, or certainly as of 
.0b1.  Have we updated to new unicode (9.0), like tcl?  Martin used to do that.

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[issue27647] Update Windows build to Tcl/Tk 8.6.6

[Zachary Ware]

Zachary Ware added the comment:

There have also been a few updates to 8.5 since we last updated the version we 
ship with 2.7; has there been anything in 8.5.15-19 that we should pick up?

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[issue27647] Update Windows build to Tcl/Tk 8.6.6

[Roundup Robot]

Roundup Robot added the comment:

New changeset abfda075eb37 by Zachary Ware in branch 'default':
Issue #27647: Update Windows build to Tcl/Tk 8.6.6
https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/abfda075eb37

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[issue27647] Update Windows build to Tcl/Tk 8.6.6

[Zachary Ware]

Zachary Ware added the comment:

I've done a test build (32-bit Release) and everything went fine.  It looks 
like we get to drop our patches, which is enough for me to want to do this for 
3.6.

We historically haven't kept our Tcl/Tk sources extremely up to date on 
Windows, though; is there anything compelling in 8.6.[56] to warrant updating 
for 3.5?

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[issue27647] Update Windows build to Tcl/Tk 8.6.6

[Serhiy Storchaka]

New submission from Serhiy Storchaka:

Current Tcl/Tk version in Windows build is 8.6.4.2. Tcl/Tk 8.6.6 was released 
yesterday.

https://sourceforge.net/p/tcl/mailman/message/35246302/

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[issue27647] Update Windows build to Tcl/Tk 8.6.6

[Serhiy Storchaka]

Changes by Serhiy Storchaka :


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