[issue37197] [Idle-dev] Feedback appreciated for two suggested new features

[SilentGhost]

SilentGhost  added the comment:

This seems to have been posted to bpo by mistake. I'm going to close this issue 
as a duplicate of #37177 and I would appreciate if you would send your e-mail 
to the idle-dev mailing list instead.

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nosy: +SilentGhost
resolution:  -> duplicate
stage:  -> resolved
status: open -> closed
superseder:  -> IDLE: Search dialogs can be hidden behind the main window
type:  -> behavior

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[issue37197] [Idle-dev] Feedback appreciated for two suggested new features

[Irv Kalb]

New submission from Irv Kalb :

[I'm not sure of the proper protocol here, I hope sending a message this way is 
OK.]

Hi,

I am writing about the potential fix to the Search Dialog box problem in IDLE 
that I reported a while back.  I can see that there is a flurry of activity on 
this bug.  I saw that there was a code change, but since I have never looked at 
IDLE source code, I really cannot comment on the fix.

However, I did see comments that it might be difficult to reproduce, so I made 
a short video to clearly demonstrate the bug.  (This is on IDLE/Python 3.6.1 
Mac)  You can see it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWDsOEN8qsE 


I did not get a chance to test this out on Window, but the bug is easily 
reproducible on a Mac.

If the change is to leave the dialog box in front of the editing window, that 
would be be fine.  But long term, if it is possible to incorporate a search bar 
like the one in PyCharm, that would be even better.

Thanks for addressing the issue and I hope this video is helpful.

Irv

> On Jun 6, 2019, at 9:28 AM, Tal Einat  wrote:
> 
> After a great delay, I've created an issue[0] about the search dialogs being 
> hidden behind the main window, and have a PR[1] up with a proposed fix.
> 
> [0] https://bugs.python.org/issue37177 
> [1] https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/13869 
> 
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 8:13 PM Irv Kalb  > wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I don't have a strong opinion about the details of the search and replace 
> dialogs.  However, I can tell you that a change replacing the dialog box 
> would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> I teach Python classes using IDLE.  The search dialog is a real a problem for 
> new students and me as the teacher.  My students and I often get into a 
> scenario where the search dialog gets hidden behind a editing window.  When 
> that happens, then you try to make edits in code and nothing happens.  This 
> happens to very often.  I have learned to look for the hidden search dialog 
> window, but my students get very flustered.
> 
> I think that a search bar would be a great improvement.  If you can model it 
> similar to the one in PyCharm, that would be wonderful.
> 
> Thanks for looking into this issue.
> 
> Irv
> 
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2018, at 2:51 PM, Tal Einat > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I've recently been working on two new features, for which I'd like to 
>> discuss whether it would be wise to include in IDLE. Each has a working 
>> implementation in a PR to make it easy to give it a try.
>> 
>> 1. Replace the search and replace dialogs with a search bar
>> https://bugs.python.org/issue34976 
>> https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/9855 
>> 
>> 
>> 2. Ability to run 3rd party code checkers
>> https://bugs.python.org/issue21880 
>> https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/9802 
>> 
>> 
>> Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!
>> 
>> - Tal Einat
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title: [Idle-dev] Feedback appreciated for two suggested new features

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