Re: [python-committers] Reminder: Python 3.4 alpha 1 release is Saturday August 3

2013-08-02 Thread Eli Bendersky
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > > > On 3 Aug 2013 10:25, "Larry Hastings" wrote: > > > > On 08/02/2013 02:00 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > >> > >> "Forward" means what? Earlier or later? > >> (intuitively, I'd say "earlier", but that doesn't seem very consistent > >> with your

Re: [python-committers] Reminder: Python 3.4 alpha 1 release is Saturday August 3

2013-08-02 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 3 Aug 2013 10:25, "Larry Hastings" wrote: > > On 08/02/2013 02:00 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: >> >> "Forward" means what? Earlier or later? >> (intuitively, I'd say "earlier", but that doesn't seem very consistent >> with your explanations) > > > Your intuition is the opposite of mine. When I mo

Re: [python-committers] Reminder: Python 3.4 alpha 1 release is Saturday August 3

2013-08-02 Thread Larry Hastings
On 08/02/2013 02:00 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: "Forward" means what? Earlier or later? (intuitively, I'd say "earlier", but that doesn't seem very consistent with your explanations) Your intuition is the opposite of mine. When I move dates "forward", I increase the date / number / etc. So I w

Re: [python-committers] Reminder: Python 3.4 alpha 1 release is Saturday August 3

2013-08-02 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Aug 02, 2013, at 11:00 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: >No need to IMO, but you mention it when sending your reminder message. >(most core developers certainly spare themselves the hassle of reading >PEP 101 - or, once they've read it, they forget it as quickly as >possible :-)) FWIW, I've always co

Re: [python-committers] python-list moderation flag

2013-08-02 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jul 29, 2013, at 11:25 PM, Brad Knowles wrote: >The postmaster/listmaster folks could potentially act as "emergency backup" >moderators, much like we do for the mailman-* lists, if there was a need for >additional people to help out. However, I suspect this additional work would >need to remai

Re: [python-committers] Reminder: Python 3.4 alpha 1 release is Saturday August 3

2013-08-02 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Le vendredi 02 août 2013 à 13:25 -0700, Larry Hastings a écrit : > From PEP 101, "Doing Python Releases 101": > > IT IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED THAT YOU AT LEAST TAG THE TREE 24 HOURS > > BEFORE A FINAL RELEASE. This will give the Experts enough time to > > do their bits before the announcement goes o

Re: [python-committers] Reminder: Python 3.4 alpha 1 release is Saturday August 3

2013-08-02 Thread Ned Deily
In article <51fc15c2.9040...@hastings.org>, Larry Hastings wrote: > From PEP 101, "Doing Python Releases 101": > > IT IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED THAT YOU AT LEAST TAG THE TREE 24 HOURS > > BEFORE A FINAL RELEASE. This will give the Experts enough time to > > do their bits before the announcement goe

Re: [python-committers] Reminder: Python 3.4 alpha 1 release is Saturday August 3

2013-08-02 Thread Ethan Furman
On 08/02/2013 01:25 PM, Larry Hastings wrote: But speaking of adjusting the schedule, I'm also considering changing bumping all the remaining release dates forward by a day. Currently all the releases are on Saturdays, which means we always tag on Friday. Ned Deily suggests instead we tag on

Re: [python-committers] Reminder: Python 3.4 alpha 1 release is Saturday August 3

2013-08-02 Thread Fred Drake
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Larry Hastings wrote: > From PEP 101, "Doing Python Releases 101": > > IT IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED THAT YOU AT LEAST TAG THE TREE 24 HOURS > BEFORE A FINAL RELEASE. This will give the Experts enough time to > do their bits before the announcement goes out. > > The sch

Re: [python-committers] Reminder: Python 3.4 alpha 1 release is Saturday August 3

2013-08-02 Thread Larry Hastings
On 08/02/2013 01:00 PM, Ned Deily wrote: Hmm. I understand this is an alpha but I was hoping to get a few more fixes in today. Perhaps, in the future, we can be more clear about exactly when the code freeze time (tag time) is vs a release time. From a developer point of view, the former is im

Re: [python-committers] Reminder: Python 3.4 alpha 1 release is Saturday August 3

2013-08-02 Thread Ned Deily
In article <51fc0bd9.1000...@hastings.org>, Larry Hastings wrote: > By the way, it looks like 3.4a1 will be basically on time. I've triaged > all the extant release blockers, so I don't have any right now. (Mostly > just marking them as "deferred blocker"...) I plan to tag today for a > rel

Re: [python-committers] Reminder: Python 3.4 alpha 1 release is Saturday August 3

2013-08-02 Thread Larry Hastings
On 08/01/2013 04:14 PM, Victor Stinner wrote: Is it ok to do such changes between the alpha4 and beta1? Yes. We don't hit feature-freeze until beta 1. But it's best to get your changes in earlier, so they can be in one (or more) alphas. And in case you discover something wrong with your a