Re: [python-committers] cherry picking after rc

2014-10-05 Thread Terry Reedy
On 10/6/2014 1:15 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: On 6 October 2014 13:17, Larry Hastings wrote: I also didn't want to add another RC and slip the release--Matthias said he wanted to ship 3.4.2 with Ubuntu 14.10, but with their release only about two weeks away I didn't want to stress them out any mor

Re: [python-committers] cherry picking after rc

2014-10-05 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 6 October 2014 13:17, Larry Hastings wrote: > > I also didn't want to add another RC and slip the release--Matthias said he > wanted to ship 3.4.2 with Ubuntu 14.10, but with their release only about > two weeks away I didn't want to stress them out any more than necessary. > (One might say, "U

Re: [python-committers] Mark Lawrence

2014-10-05 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 6 October 2014 07:22, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 10/5/2014 3:39 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: >> >> I responded on the issue, >> and will say more privately. > > I wrote him and tried to communicate three ideas. > 1. Closing issues and responding to new messages, while important, are > subsidiary to the

Re: [python-committers] cherry picking after rc

2014-10-05 Thread Larry Hastings
On 10/05/2014 07:11 AM, R. David Murray wrote: Larry, saw your discussion on IRC with Georg about what to cherry pick into the release clone before issuing final. IMO you shouldn't cherry pick anything, since I believe there have been *zero* issues opened that said that the RC was broken. 3.4.

Re: [python-committers] Mark Lawrence

2014-10-05 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Raymond Hettinger < raymond.hettin...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm not at all into banning, but it would be nice if Mark's interest > could be channelled into something useful. > Yes, given that he is reasonable on emails. So requesting him to not just prod/churn issues

Re: [python-committers] Mark Lawrence

2014-10-05 Thread Raymond Hettinger
On Oct 5, 2014, at 1:44 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > Le 05/10/2014 21:02, Terry Reedy a écrit : >> >> If you are annoyed, lets discuss specifics and see if we can agree on >> refined guidelines to give him. It could even be "leave Benjamin's >> issues alone". > > I'd like him to stop blindly

Re: [python-committers] Mark Lawrence

2014-10-05 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Le 05/10/2014 23:22, Terry Reedy a écrit : > On 10/5/2014 3:39 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: >> I responded on the issue, >> and will say more privately. > > I wrote him and tried to communicate three ideas. > 1. Closing issues and responding to new messages, while important, are > subsidiary to the pr

Re: [python-committers] Mark Lawrence

2014-10-05 Thread Georg Brandl
On 10/05/2014 11:01 PM, Ned Deily wrote: > In article , > Georg Brandl wrote: >> On 10/05/2014 09:36 PM, Ned Deily wrote: >> > To me, the main issue is that the noise is not just directed at python >> > committers but also to the python users who have submitted those issues or >> > otherwise foll

Re: [python-committers] Mark Lawrence

2014-10-05 Thread Terry Reedy
On 10/5/2014 3:39 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: I responded on the issue, and will say more privately. I wrote him and tried to communicate three ideas. 1. Closing issues and responding to new messages, while important, are subsidiary to the primary goal of improving Python. 2. We would prefer more

Re: [python-committers] Mark Lawrence

2014-10-05 Thread Ned Deily
In article , Georg Brandl wrote: > On 10/05/2014 09:36 PM, Ned Deily wrote: > > To me, the main issue is that the noise is not just directed at python > > committers but also to the python users who have submitted those issues or > > otherwise following them (via nosy or otherwise). I think the

Re: [python-committers] Mark Lawrence

2014-10-05 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Le 05/10/2014 21:02, Terry Reedy a écrit : > > If you are annoyed, lets discuss specifics and see if we can agree on > refined guidelines to give him. It could even be "leave Benjamin's > issues alone". I'd like him to stop blindly pinging issues without trying to investigate them. I routinel

Re: [python-committers] Mark Lawrence

2014-10-05 Thread Georg Brandl
On 10/05/2014 09:36 PM, Ned Deily wrote: > On Oct 5, 2014, at 12:24 , R. David Murray wrote: >> >> It is certainly true that I for one ignore anything with his name on it, >> because most of the time it is noise and it isn't worth the effort to >> figure out which ones aren't noise. > > To me,

Re: [python-committers] Mark Lawrence

2014-10-05 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Le 05/10/2014 21:36, Ned Deily a écrit : > On Oct 5, 2014, at 12:24 , R. David Murray wrote: >> >> It is certainly true that I for one ignore anything with his name on it, >> because most of the time it is noise and it isn't worth the effort >> to figure out which ones aren't noise. > > To me, t

Re: [python-committers] Mark Lawrence

2014-10-05 Thread Terry Reedy
On 10/5/2014 2:47 PM, Benjamin Peterson wrote: On Sun, Oct 5, 2014, at 14:42, Serhiy Storchaka wrote: On 05.10.14 21:15, Benjamin Peterson wrote: "BreamoreBoy" is back on tracker touching hundreds of issues without adding any new information. This is certainly not the first time. Can we ban him

Re: [python-committers] Mark Lawrence

2014-10-05 Thread Terry Reedy
On 10/5/2014 2:15 PM, Benjamin Peterson wrote: "BreamoreBoy" is back on tracker touching hundreds of issues without adding any new information. This is certainly not the first time. Can we ban him? Can we? Of course, but that is a rare last resort. Should we? No. I have closed several issues

Re: [python-committers] Mark Lawrence

2014-10-05 Thread Ned Deily
On Oct 5, 2014, at 12:24 , R. David Murray wrote: > > It is certainly true that I for one ignore anything with his name on it, > because most of the time it is noise and it isn't worth the effort > to figure out which ones aren't noise. To me, the main issue is that the noise is not just directe

Re: [python-committers] Mark Lawrence

2014-10-05 Thread R. David Murray
On Sun, 05 Oct 2014 14:47:06 -0400, Benjamin Peterson wrote: > On Sun, Oct 5, 2014, at 14:42, Serhiy Storchaka wrote: > > On 05.10.14 21:15, Benjamin Peterson wrote: > > > "BreamoreBoy" is back on tracker touching hundreds of issues without > > > adding any new information. This is certainly not

Re: [python-committers] Mark Lawrence

2014-10-05 Thread Benjamin Peterson
On Sun, Oct 5, 2014, at 14:42, Serhiy Storchaka wrote: > On 05.10.14 21:15, Benjamin Peterson wrote: > > "BreamoreBoy" is back on tracker touching hundreds of issues without > > adding any new information. This is certainly not the first time. Can we > > ban him? > > I think it would be enough jus

Re: [python-committers] Mark Lawrence

2014-10-05 Thread Serhiy Storchaka
On 05.10.14 21:15, Benjamin Peterson wrote: "BreamoreBoy" is back on tracker touching hundreds of issues without adding any new information. This is certainly not the first time. Can we ban him? I think it would be enough just to say him stop. He is not malicious. Actually there was few cases

[python-committers] Mark Lawrence

2014-10-05 Thread Benjamin Peterson
"BreamoreBoy" is back on tracker touching hundreds of issues without adding any new information. This is certainly not the first time. Can we ban him? ___ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [python-committers] cherry picking after rc

2014-10-05 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Le 05/10/2014 16:11, R. David Murray a écrit : > Larry, saw your discussion on IRC with Georg about what to cherry pick > into the release clone before issuing final. IMO you shouldn't cherry > pick anything, since I believe there have been *zero* issues opened that > said that the RC was broken.

[python-committers] cherry picking after rc

2014-10-05 Thread R. David Murray
Larry, saw your discussion on IRC with Georg about what to cherry pick into the release clone before issuing final. IMO you shouldn't cherry pick anything, since I believe there have been *zero* issues opened that said that the RC was broken. IMO the only differences between the last RC and final