On 09/21/2018 07:51 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
Le 21/09/2018 à 14:45, Paul Moore a écrit :
It's not likely to be a practical option on a mailing list, but in
primary school (which the whole conversation felt like) a likely
response would have been to put *everyone* involved in a time-out for
a
On 9/21/2018 6:55 AM, Christian Heimes wrote:
I don't understand why you are drawing the reverse conclusion here. Can
you give me one concrete example, in which a French, German, or any
other non-US American taboo was violated and not counteracted with swift
reaction?
Are you talking about som
> On Sep 21, 2018, at 10:51 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
>
>
> Le 21/09/2018 à 14:45, Paul Moore a écrit :
>>
>> It's not likely to be a practical option on a mailing list, but in
>> primary school (which the whole conversation felt like) a likely
>> response would have been to put *everyone* in
Le 21/09/2018 à 14:45, Paul Moore a écrit :
>
> It's not likely to be a practical option on a mailing list, but in
> primary school (which the whole conversation felt like) a likely
> response would have been to put *everyone* involved in a time-out for
> a period of cooling off, to think about h
Le 21/09/2018 à 16:35, Guido van Rossum a écrit :
> Perhaps worth including in PEP 8002, the overview of other governance
> models? (Though the process described here seems to be JS's equivalent
> of our PEP process -- it doesn't say anything about how TC39 gets formed
> or how non-technical decis
Perhaps worth including in PEP 8002, the overview of other governance
models? (Though the process described here seems to be JS's equivalent of
our PEP process -- it doesn't say anything about how TC39 gets formed or
how non-technical decisions are handled.)
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> On Sep 21, 2018, at 8:59 AM, Paul Moore wrote:
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> On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 at 13:30, Donald Stufft wrote:
>> So part of being and open and welcoming community, is knowing and
>> understanding that words, images, etc like that can make people feel like
>> we’re either a group that will directly
On Sep 21, 2018, at 05:37, Christian Heimes wrote:
> On 19/09/2018 23.12, Ned Deily wrote:
>> Update: not surprisingly, there have been a number of issues that have
>> popped up during and since the sprint that we would like to ensure are
>> addressed in 3.7.1 and 3.6.7. In order to do so, I've
On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 at 13:30, Donald Stufft wrote:
> So part of being and open and welcoming community, is knowing and
> understanding that words, images, etc like that can make people feel like
> we’re either a group that will directly engage in those attacks that have
> been associated with t
On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 7:07 AM Antoine Pitrou wrote:
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> I don't know of specifically French linguistic taboos, so I'm unable to
> answer this. French culture generally doesn't ban words wholesale, even
> when used in quotes. The very idea that you can't *quote* something
> despicable is forei
On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 at 13:26, Carol Willing wrote:
> Context is important. I wonder though if the author's intent was constructive
> comment...
I'm sure it wasn't. But in context, it was a statement made in a
thread that had long previously become nothing more than
non-constructive invective. Ca
> On Sep 21, 2018, at 8:01 AM, Paul Moore wrote:
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> On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 at 12:38, Carol Willing wrote:
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>> Much of the discussion here has focused on the use of a few words.
>>
>> IMHO, discussing violence, assault, and implying that its okay to accept and
>> trivialize this violence do n
Hi Paul,
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Fear of speaking or fear of reading - both are not ideal. The balance of
respectful discourse likely falls somewhere between the two.
Context is important. I wonder though if the author's intent was
constructive comment...
On Fri, Sep 21, 2018, 8:01 AM
On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 at 12:38, Carol Willing wrote:
> Much of the discussion here has focused on the use of a few words.
>
> IMHO, discussing violence, assault, and implying that its okay to accept and
> trivialize this violence do not belong in posts about the Python language.
>
> From the origi
On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 at 21:37, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
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>
> Apparently it's this one:
> https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-ideas/2018-September/053482.html
>
> By the way, regardless of this single case, I would like people to think
> of the broader issue we're having. It's more than a single
> On Sep 21, 2018, at 7:07 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
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>
> Le 21/09/2018 à 12:55, Christian Heimes a écrit :
>> On 21/09/2018 12.46, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
>>>
>>> Le 21/09/2018 à 02:06, Nathaniel Smith a écrit :
Now sure, that taboo is an American thing, and I wouldn't support
autom
Le 21/09/2018 à 13:06, Christian Heimes a écrit :
>
> In my opinion it's both wrong and unfair to compare the ban with
> Anatoly's ban. For one we didn't have a process and general consent for
> bans.
AFAIK we still don't. I don't know where such a procedure is written
out, and I don't remember
Le 21/09/2018 à 12:55, Christian Heimes a écrit :
> On 21/09/2018 12.46, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
>>
>> Le 21/09/2018 à 02:06, Nathaniel Smith a écrit :
>>> Now sure, that taboo is an American thing, and I wouldn't support
>>> automatically banning someone who used it in genuine ignorance, was
>>> re
On 20/09/2018 22.25, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> I'm choosing to forward this to python-committers because I don't think
> python-ideas is a reasonable place to discuss CoC decisions.
>
> I think the action taken by Brett (apparently decided with Titus and a
> mysterious "conduct working g
> On Sep 21, 2018, at 6:55 AM, Christian Heimes wrote:
>
> I don't understand why you are drawing the reverse conclusion here. Can
> you give me one concrete example, in which a French, German, or any
> other non-US American taboo was violated and not counteracted with swift
> reaction?
Right,
On 21/09/2018 12.46, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
>
> Le 21/09/2018 à 02:06, Nathaniel Smith a écrit :
>> Now sure, that taboo is an American thing, and I wouldn't support
>> automatically banning someone who used it in genuine ignorance, was
>> repentant when they realized what they'd done, etc.
>
> So
Le 21/09/2018 à 02:06, Nathaniel Smith a écrit :
> Now sure, that taboo is an American thing, and I wouldn't support
> automatically banning someone who used it in genuine ignorance, was
> repentant when they realized what they'd done, etc.
So why are American taboos specifically forbidden, and n
On 19/09/2018 23.12, Ned Deily wrote:
> Update: not surprisingly, there have been a number of issues that have popped
> up during and since the sprint that we would like to ensure are addressed in
> 3.7.1 and 3.6.7. In order to do so, I've been holding off on starting the
> releases. I think we
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