[python-committers] Re: Notification of a three-month ban from Python core development

2020-07-22 Thread Barry Warsaw
Hi Berker, If you have specific concerns, you are always welcome to reach out to the SC or Conduct WG. For now I’ll just say that we are continuing to work through conduct issues. Cheers, -Barry > On Jul 22, 2020, at 16:57, Berker Peksağ wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 10:31 PM Python

[python-committers] Re: Notification of a three-month ban from Python core development

2020-07-22 Thread Berker Peksağ
On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 10:31 PM Python Steering Council wrote: > > The following message was sent to a core developer. This message was > thoughtfully and respectfully sent by the Steering Council as a serious > reminder that the privilege to serve as a core developer comes with the >

[python-committers] Re: Notification of a three-month ban from Python core development

2020-07-22 Thread Barry Warsaw
It’s a really difficult call. Please accept that everyone on the PSF Board, SC, and WG are really trying to do their best. I know you do Nathaniel, so this is not meant to call you out personally, it’s just a general plea for understanding. This has been really difficult for everyone

[python-committers] Re: Notification of a three-month ban from Python core development

2020-07-22 Thread Barry Warsaw
Hello Ivan, As mentioned, this was sent to python-committers, i.e. all core developers. The Steering Council, Conduct WG, and PSF Board have been working incredibly diligently on this incident for quite some time. Remember that almost all of us are volunteers too! We have tried to balance

[python-committers] Re: Notification of a three-month ban from Python core development

2020-07-22 Thread Senthil Kumaran
Hello Steering Council / Conduct Working Group, I understand and appreciate sharing this with the python-committers list. > Based on Code of Conduct violations in your recent mailing list posts, and under the recommendation of the Code of Conduct Working Group, the Python Steering Council has

[python-committers] Re: Notification of a three-month ban from Python core development

2020-07-22 Thread Nathaniel Smith
Given that this is a response to behavior in public mailing list posts, the lack of specificity feels off to me. Whatever this person did is already public. What's being hidden isn't their behavior; it's the conduct-wg/steering-council's reasoning for banning them. The point of having a CoC is

[python-committers] Re: Notification of a three-month ban from Python core development

2020-07-22 Thread Christian Heimes
On 22/07/2020 21.45, Ivan Levkivskyi wrote: > What's the point of sending this to everyone? Why wasn't this sent as a > quote? > Anyway, this doesn't change my decision. Hi Ivan, the message was sent to python-committers. All active Python core developers are subscribed to this mailing list and

[python-committers] Re: Notification of a three-month ban from Python core development

2020-07-22 Thread Mariatta
> > What's the point of sending this to everyone? Why wasn't this sent as a > quote? I'm not in the coc workgroup or steering council, but I think a copy was sent for transparency. I personally think it is important that we know that there was an incident, the incident was reviewed, and action

[python-committers] Re: Notification of a three-month ban from Python core development

2020-07-22 Thread Ivan Levkivskyi
What's the point of sending this to everyone? Why wasn't this sent as a quote? Anyway, this doesn't change my decision. On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 at 20:42, Alex Gaynor wrote: > It was sent to all of python-committers as a heads up that _someone_ was > banned. > > I didn't follow the thread in

[python-committers] Re: Notification of a three-month ban from Python core development

2020-07-22 Thread Alex Gaynor
It was sent to all of python-committers as a heads up that _someone_ was banned. I didn't follow the thread in question, so this is all a little opaque to me, I have no idea who we're talking about or what their conduct is. I assume that's intentional. Alex On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 3:40 PM Ivan

[python-committers] Re: Notification of a three-month ban from Python core development

2020-07-22 Thread Ivan Levkivskyi
Hi, I don't remember participating in any of the recent discussions on the mentioned lists. Why is this sent to me? Can you mention any particular posts? The scary atmosphere here becomes unbearable. I wasn't very active lately anyway, and I think I will stop contributing indefinitely. Best

[python-committers] Notification of a three-month ban from Python core development

2020-07-22 Thread Python Steering Council
The following message was sent to a core developer. This message was thoughtfully and respectfully sent by the Steering Council as a serious reminder that the privilege to serve as a core developer comes with the responsibility to act thoughtfully. --- Based on Code of Conduct violations in