[python-committers] Re: Policy around compile-time flags in bugfix releases

2020-03-02 Thread Stefan Krah
lso, due to the size of _decimal.c and the complexity of the context handling code, it is really unpleasant to have large diffs between master and the two previous versions. I understand that Lukasz and Ned will have extra work if something happens, bu

Re: [python-committers] Timeline to vote for a governance PEP

2018-11-03 Thread Stefan Krah
f a minority (and I'm concerned that Tim may not vote because of this). Stefan Krah ___ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers Code of Conduct: https://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/

Re: [python-committers] Timeline to vote for a governance PEP

2018-11-03 Thread Stefan Krah
it clear to me that taking in information is at least 10x faster if presented on a mailing list. Discourse feels like eating soup with a fork, especially now that the volume is higher. Stefan Krah ___ python-committers mailing list python-committers@pytho

Re: [python-committers] discuss.python.org participation

2018-10-17 Thread Stefan Krah
is allowed to edit. Discourse gets more tolerable if one disables Javascript in uBlockOrigin and adds a filter for loading pictures. But I can't login without Javascript, so it's not a great solution. Stefan Krah ___ python-committers

Re: [python-committers] discuss.python.org participation

2018-10-12 Thread Stefan Krah
ven among people who explicitly *want* a web forum. Stefan Krah ___ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers Code of Conduct: https://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/

Re: [python-committers] discuss.python.org participation

2018-10-10 Thread Stefan Krah
ious visual effects on the Discourse site. Fade-in, progress spinner, moving elements when scrolling, long load times. There are recurrent discussions about attracting developers. As far as C developers are concerned, I doubt that this forum is going to attract

Re: [python-committers] Non-active devs, become active! (was: python-committers is dead, long live discuss.python.org)

2018-09-29 Thread Stefan Krah
iscussions take place here. Stefan Krah ___ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers Code of Conduct: https://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/

Re: [python-committers] python-committers is dead, long live discuss.python.org

2018-09-29 Thread Stefan Krah
n. Ah yes, it only has comp.lang.python <==> python-list, which is useless of course: ftp://ftp.fu-berlin.de/doc/news/fu-berlin/active My good memories of the service were for other groups like sci.crypt. Stefan Krah ___ python-committers mailing list

Re: [python-committers] python-committers is dead, long live discuss.python.org

2018-09-29 Thread Stefan Krah
l. It's not free though (EUR 10,- per year). Stefan Krah ___ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers Code of Conduct: https://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/

Re: [python-committers] python-committers is dead, long live discuss.python.org

2018-09-29 Thread Stefan Krah
move fast on this. Sorry if I misunderstand this, but is the plan to moderate *core developers* on python-committers? Stefan Krah ___ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-

Re: [python-committers] python-committers is dead, long live discuss.python.org

2018-09-29 Thread Stefan Krah
e contributed huge amounts of code, apparently have not been at that exclusive summit and have indicated that they are uncomfortable with that decision. Stefan Krah ___ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org https://mail.python.org/

Re: [python-committers] Language moratorium

2018-07-19 Thread Stefan Krah
policy", but as a signal of strength. Suppose people take long vacations, take a distance to the whole PEP 572 situation, perhaps reevaluate; there is always the possibility of overlooking a very simple solution that becomes apparent after a while. Stefan Krah __

Re: [python-committers] Language moratorium

2018-07-18 Thread Stefan Krah
On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 11:47:22AM -0700, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Jul 18, 2018, at 09:11, Stefan Krah wrote: > > > if I remember correctly, we had a moratorium for language changes around > > versions 3.2-3.3. I think during that time relatively few BDFL-level > >

[python-committers] Language moratorium

2018-07-18 Thread Stefan Krah
wonderful language!). Stefan Krah ___ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers Code of Conduct: https://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/

Re: [python-committers] Comments on moving issues to GitHub

2018-05-20 Thread Stefan Krah
migration that in the case of GH bankruptcy or a sudden lockdown the tracker would still be available. Stefan Krah ___ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers Code of Con

Re: [python-committers] Poll: Do you like the PEP 572 Assignment Expressions?

2018-05-02 Thread Stefan Krah
+0.5 Stefan Krah ___ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers Code of Conduct: https://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/

Re: [python-committers] Official way to check out a tag?

2018-01-23 Thread Stefan Krah
quot;? Thanks, that works! I assumed that I mishandled git and completely overlooked the easier solution. :-) Stefan Krah ___ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committer

[python-committers] Official way to check out a tag?

2018-01-23 Thread Stefan Krah
Hello, what is the official way to checkout a tag for debugging? I did: git checkout v3.6.0 This just worked in mercurial, but doing the above results in a compile error: threadmodule.c:1355: multiple definition of `PyInit__thread' Stefan

Re: [python-committers] Security: please enable 2-factor authentication on GitHub and your email

2017-12-12 Thread Stefan Krah
forbidden (if there are USB ports at all). Stefan Krah ___ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers Code of Conduct: https://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/

Re: [python-committers] 2FA: only needed at the *first* GitHub login, not needed for commits

2017-12-12 Thread Stefan Krah
as been in the past but the prevailing doctrine does not permit to mention it, and if anyone dares to he is ignored). Given the snake oil history in crypto products (Crypto AG, RSA SecureID, Infineon chips, closed source in YubiKey), quite franky MY security model won't allow

Re: [python-committers] Security: please enable 2-factor authentication on GitHub and your email

2017-12-11 Thread Stefan Krah
ons many cryptography experts give against home banking using card readers. It puts all the responsibility on the customer/user. Stefan Krah ___ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyth

Re: [python-committers] Security: please enable 2-factor authentication on GitHub and your email

2017-12-11 Thread Stefan Krah
On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 01:47:50PM +0100, Victor Stinner wrote: > 2017-12-11 13:29 GMT+01:00 Stefan Krah : > > Ssh isn't available everywhere, I don't want to install an app or give > > out my phone number to half of Silicon Valley [1]. > > SMS and FreeOTP are just

Re: [python-committers] Security: please enable 2-factor authentication on GitHub and your email

2017-12-11 Thread Stefan Krah
On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 12:19:46PM +0100, Victor Stinner wrote: > 2017-12-11 12:05 GMT+01:00 Stefan Krah : > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSA_SecurID#March_2011_system_compromise > > https://gist.github.com/peternixey/1978249 > > > > I'm pretty sure my long Git

Re: [python-committers] Security: please enable 2-factor authentication on GitHub and your email

2017-12-11 Thread Stefan Krah
A_SecurID#March_2011_system_compromise https://gist.github.com/peternixey/1978249 I'm pretty sure my long GitHub-only password is more secure than several key-gen algorithms on smart cards ... Stefan Krah ___ python-committers mailing list python-committ

Re: [python-committers] Hacktoberfest

2017-09-28 Thread Stefan Krah
rn a > limited edition T-Shirt. This may sound grumpy to some, but I'm against gamification of open source and also against giving GitHub a special role. Any open source activity is somehow credited to or associated with some commercial entity. What has changed in the last 7-1

Re: [python-committers] Github reviews are cannibalizing BPO

2017-05-03 Thread Stefan Krah
ed those buttons in a memorable mailing list thread about a trivial unittest change a couple of years ago? I wouldn't. Voting should be reserved for concrete finished proposals. Stefan Krah ___ python-committers mailing list python-committers@py

Re: [python-committers] Discussions on PRs

2017-02-13 Thread Stefan Krah
On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 08:48:08AM -0500, Donald Stufft wrote: > It looks like the person in question is commenting on the issue tracker. Is *now* commenting on the issue tracker as opposed to when I wrote the mail. But hey, it sounds much more impressive the way you phrased it ... Stefan

Re: [python-committers] Discussions on PRs

2017-02-13 Thread Stefan Krah
tches without comments emerge really fast: https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/65 Actually I expected this competitive atmosphere, because that's what GitHub encourages. Realistically, my workload tripled for this one particular issue com

Re: [python-committers] My cavalier and aggressive manner, API change and bugs introduced for basically zero benefit

2017-01-20 Thread Stefan Krah
nsmodule.c is written and maintained by Raymond; Modules/_decimal/* has exactly one author. > My problem is that I'm not aware of any explicit list of maintainers. https://docs.python.org/devguide/experts.html :) Stefan Krah ___ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers Code of Conduct: https://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/

Re: [python-committers] PVS-Studio licences

2016-08-14 Thread Stefan Krah
As Serhiy pointed out, there is no new issue: A diff exists in #27587. ___ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers Code of Conduct: https://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/

[python-committers] PVS-Studio licences

2016-08-14 Thread Stefan Krah
secret and it's obviously only for Python core development. If you want it, mail me privately -- similar to the MSDN licences. Stefan Krah ___ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/

Re: [python-committers] Promote Xavier de Gaye as a core developer

2016-05-22 Thread Stefan Krah
. IMHO it's a good thing to support > this platform. It's a common user request, Android platform becomes > more and more popular. +1. The Android patches are very good -- he would be the ideal maintainer. Stefan Krah ___ python-committ

Re: [python-committers] CFFI is slow

2016-03-05 Thread Stefan Krah
c wand simply > doesn't exist./arry Sorry for misquoting, indeed you said that. I was a little concerned that CFFI was mentioned by several people as a solution and wanted to highlight the drawbacks. Stefan Krah ___ python-committers mail

Re: [python-committers] CFFI is slow (was: Re: Redoing the C API?)

2016-03-05 Thread Stefan Krah
Stefan Krah bytereef.org> writes: > We're talking about a slowdown of at least an order of magnitude here: > > https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2013-December/130772.html > > I think people who don't need the C-API can use PyPy. Or, of course, u

[python-committers] CFFI is slow (was: Re: Redoing the C API?)

2016-03-05 Thread Stefan Krah
CPython. IMO CPython's C-API is the best out there and a large part of Python's success. We're talking about a slowdown of at least an order of magnitude here: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2013-December/130772.html I think people who don't need the C-A

Re: [python-committers] Making the PSF CoC apply to core developers

2016-03-01 Thread Stefan Krah
Thomas Wouters python.org> writes: > On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Stefan Krah bytereef.org> wrote:Wondering what a Monty Python episode about CoCs would look like ... > > I think you're misunderstanding Monty Python's humour if you think they'd have made one a

Re: [python-committers] Making the PSF CoC apply to core developers

2016-03-01 Thread Stefan Krah
te for core developers instead... I would throw in "Life of Brian" (in particular the "we are all individuals" dialogue) and "Yes Minister" (don't get me started on that one). Wondering what a Monty Python episode about CoCs would look like ... Stefan K

Re: [python-committers] Making the PSF CoC apply to core developers

2016-02-27 Thread Stefan Krah
should remain an entity where interested people can just come and "hack on something" instead of being overburdened by regulations. As for the devguide, briefly mentioning the categorical imperative should suffice. ;) Stefan Krah __

Re: [python-committers] Status of the Derby, and request for another slip

2014-01-25 Thread Stefan Krah
t all. So I vote for releasing according to the schedule. Stefan Krah ___ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers

Re: [python-committers] hg clone cpython newrepo aborts

2013-05-28 Thread Stefan Krah
 Lib/idlelib/idle_test/@README.txt@83941: 7573717b9e6f in manifests not found > 3 integrity errors encountered! > (first damaged changeset appears to be 83941) This is new though. Stefan Krah ___ python-committers mailing list python-commi

Re: [python-committers] Pending contributor agreement

2013-01-28 Thread Stefan Krah
Serhiy Storchaka wrote: > Robert Xiao (nneonneo) http://bugs.python.org/issue17051 The patch is trivial, so you can commit without an agreement. Stefan Krah ___ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org http://mail.python.

Re: [python-committers] anyone still have access to the coverity scan results?

2012-08-18 Thread Stefan Krah
Christian Heimes wrote: > Yup, my login still works. I can send you a CSV or XML report if you like. Thanks, got the CSV! If anyone has the possibility to create new accounts, I would like to apply for one. Stefan Krah ___ python-committ

Re: [python-committers] anyone still have access to the coverity scan results?

2012-08-18 Thread Stefan Krah
have access by now? For example, I'm curious to see the results for Modules/_decimal/*, Modules/_decimal/libmpdec/* and Objects/memoryobject.c. Stefan Krah ___ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org http://mail.pytho

[python-committers] Coverity scans

2011-10-15 Thread Stefan Krah
ed and get access to the scans? Stefan Krah ___ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers

Re: [python-committers] SVN repository is now read-only

2011-03-04 Thread Stefan Krah
Georg Brandl wrote: > On 04.03.2011 18:21, Stefan Krah wrote: > > Georg Brandl wrote: > >> Antoine and me are starting the conversion now (it takes quite > >> a while to get the SVN repo and convert it, so we're doing it > >> overnight). > >> &

Re: [python-committers] SVN repository is now read-only

2011-03-04 Thread Stefan Krah
ng all integration into > python.org services and probably more work on the new devguide. > > Please join us in #python-dev if you have questions. Would it interfere with your plans if I commit an svnmerge for py3k-cdecimal? Or is this now im