[python-committers] Re: Please avoid non-bugfix changes during the beta phase

2020-07-21 Thread Thomas Wouters
On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 9:41 PM Barry Warsaw wrote: > > That said, I also think that the general rule of only bug fix changes post > beta 1 is the right policy. For other changes, or anything that you think > straddles the line between bug fix and non-bug fix, ask the Release > Manager. The

[python-committers] Re: Please avoid non-bugfix changes during the beta phase

2020-07-08 Thread Petr Viktorin
On 2020-07-07 21:35, Barry Warsaw wrote: It’s true that as releases get closer to final, more people will start exercising them. However, you really don’t have to wait. I maintain “official” Linux (Ubuntu) Docker images that contain all the latest releases (including alphas and betas), and

[python-committers] Re: Please avoid non-bugfix changes during the beta phase

2020-07-08 Thread Steve Dower
On 07Jul2020 0321, Raymond Hettinger wrote: My two cents: I think this should be a little more liberal. At beta 1, freeze the addition of new features but continue to tweak the implementation with code clean-ups, additional tests, algorithmic improvements, and better docs. All of those things

[python-committers] Re: Please avoid non-bugfix changes during the beta phase

2020-07-07 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 7:21 PM Raymond Hettinger < raymond.hettin...@gmail.com> wrote: > My two cents: I think this should be a little more liberal. At beta 1, > freeze the addition of new features but continue to tweak the > implementation with code clean-ups, additional tests, algorithmic >

[python-committers] Re: Please avoid non-bugfix changes during the beta phase

2020-07-07 Thread Barry Warsaw
It’s true that as releases get closer to final, more people will start exercising them. However, you really don’t have to wait. I maintain “official” Linux (Ubuntu) Docker images that contain all the latest releases (including alphas and betas), and the git head of the development branch at

[python-committers] Re: Please avoid non-bugfix changes during the beta phase

2020-07-07 Thread Yury Selivanov
On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 7:21 PM Raymond Hettinger wrote: > If not, perhaps we should just have a single beta, frozen except for bugfixes. +1 for having betas frozen, except for bug fixes. But the bug fixes need to go somewhere, so I propose to have yet another frozen beta (if there are bug

[python-committers] Re: Please avoid non-bugfix changes during the beta phase

2020-07-07 Thread Victor Stinner
Le mar. 7 juil. 2020 à 04:21, Raymond Hettinger a écrit : > At beta 1, freeze the addition of new features but continue to tweak the > implementation with code clean-ups, (...) IMHO clean-ups should stop after beta1. Only the master branch should receive cleanup changes. A clean-up doesn't

[python-committers] Re: Please avoid non-bugfix changes during the beta phase

2020-07-06 Thread Raymond Hettinger
My two cents: I think this should be a little more liberal. At beta 1, freeze the addition of new features but continue to tweak the implementation with code clean-ups, additional tests, algorithmic improvements, and better docs. For many of the devs (and users), the first time we get to