Re: [python-committers] Reminder: Python 3.4 alpha 1 release is Saturday August 3

2013-08-03 Thread martin
Quoting Fred Drake : IT IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED THAT YOU AT LEAST TAG THE TREE 24 HOURS BEFORE A FINAL RELEASE. This will give the Experts enough time to do their bits before the announcement goes out. The schedule calls for the Alpha 1 release tomorrow. Ergo, tag today. When I read this, I

Re: [python-committers] Reminder: Python 3.4 alpha 1 release is Saturday August 3

2013-08-02 Thread Eli Bendersky
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > > > On 3 Aug 2013 10:25, "Larry Hastings" wrote: > > > > On 08/02/2013 02:00 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > >> > >> "Forward" means what? Earlier or later? > >> (intuitively, I'd say "earlier", but that doesn't seem very consistent > >> with your

Re: [python-committers] Reminder: Python 3.4 alpha 1 release is Saturday August 3

2013-08-02 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 3 Aug 2013 10:25, "Larry Hastings" wrote: > > On 08/02/2013 02:00 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: >> >> "Forward" means what? Earlier or later? >> (intuitively, I'd say "earlier", but that doesn't seem very consistent >> with your explanations) > > > Your intuition is the opposite of mine. When I mo

Re: [python-committers] Reminder: Python 3.4 alpha 1 release is Saturday August 3

2013-08-02 Thread Larry Hastings
On 08/02/2013 02:00 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: "Forward" means what? Earlier or later? (intuitively, I'd say "earlier", but that doesn't seem very consistent with your explanations) Your intuition is the opposite of mine. When I move dates "forward", I increase the date / number / etc. So I w

Re: [python-committers] Reminder: Python 3.4 alpha 1 release is Saturday August 3

2013-08-02 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Aug 02, 2013, at 11:00 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: >No need to IMO, but you mention it when sending your reminder message. >(most core developers certainly spare themselves the hassle of reading >PEP 101 - or, once they've read it, they forget it as quickly as >possible :-)) FWIW, I've always co

Re: [python-committers] Reminder: Python 3.4 alpha 1 release is Saturday August 3

2013-08-02 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Le vendredi 02 août 2013 à 13:25 -0700, Larry Hastings a écrit : > From PEP 101, "Doing Python Releases 101": > > IT IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED THAT YOU AT LEAST TAG THE TREE 24 HOURS > > BEFORE A FINAL RELEASE. This will give the Experts enough time to > > do their bits before the announcement goes o

Re: [python-committers] Reminder: Python 3.4 alpha 1 release is Saturday August 3

2013-08-02 Thread Ned Deily
In article <51fc15c2.9040...@hastings.org>, Larry Hastings wrote: > From PEP 101, "Doing Python Releases 101": > > IT IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED THAT YOU AT LEAST TAG THE TREE 24 HOURS > > BEFORE A FINAL RELEASE. This will give the Experts enough time to > > do their bits before the announcement goe

Re: [python-committers] Reminder: Python 3.4 alpha 1 release is Saturday August 3

2013-08-02 Thread Ethan Furman
On 08/02/2013 01:25 PM, Larry Hastings wrote: But speaking of adjusting the schedule, I'm also considering changing bumping all the remaining release dates forward by a day. Currently all the releases are on Saturdays, which means we always tag on Friday. Ned Deily suggests instead we tag on

Re: [python-committers] Reminder: Python 3.4 alpha 1 release is Saturday August 3

2013-08-02 Thread Fred Drake
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Larry Hastings wrote: > From PEP 101, "Doing Python Releases 101": > > IT IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED THAT YOU AT LEAST TAG THE TREE 24 HOURS > BEFORE A FINAL RELEASE. This will give the Experts enough time to > do their bits before the announcement goes out. > > The sch

Re: [python-committers] Reminder: Python 3.4 alpha 1 release is Saturday August 3

2013-08-02 Thread Larry Hastings
On 08/02/2013 01:00 PM, Ned Deily wrote: Hmm. I understand this is an alpha but I was hoping to get a few more fixes in today. Perhaps, in the future, we can be more clear about exactly when the code freeze time (tag time) is vs a release time. From a developer point of view, the former is im

Re: [python-committers] Reminder: Python 3.4 alpha 1 release is Saturday August 3

2013-08-02 Thread Ned Deily
In article <51fc0bd9.1000...@hastings.org>, Larry Hastings wrote: > By the way, it looks like 3.4a1 will be basically on time. I've triaged > all the extant release blockers, so I don't have any right now. (Mostly > just marking them as "deferred blocker"...) I plan to tag today for a > rel

Re: [python-committers] Reminder: Python 3.4 alpha 1 release is Saturday August 3

2013-08-02 Thread Larry Hastings
On 08/01/2013 04:14 PM, Victor Stinner wrote: Is it ok to do such changes between the alpha4 and beta1? Yes. We don't hit feature-freeze until beta 1. But it's best to get your changes in earlier, so they can be in one (or more) alphas. And in case you discover something wrong with your a

Re: [python-committers] Reminder: Python 3.4 alpha 1 release is Saturday August 3

2013-08-01 Thread Victor Stinner
2013/8/2 Victor Stinner : > 2013/7/25 Larry Hastings : >> It's about nine days from now. I expect to tag the release late next week. >> So if you're doing any major brain surgery, please finish it up in the next >> week or so. > > I hope that I would have enough free time before the alpĥa2 to: > >

Re: [python-committers] Reminder: Python 3.4 alpha 1 release is Saturday August 3

2013-08-01 Thread Victor Stinner
2013/7/25 Larry Hastings : > It's about nine days from now. I expect to tag the release late next week. > So if you're doing any major brain surgery, please finish it up in the next > week or so. I hope that I would have enough free time before the alpĥa2 to: * find a consensus on the file descr

Re: [python-committers] Reminder: Python 3.4 alpha 1 release is Saturday August 3

2013-07-31 Thread Larry Hastings
On 07/30/2013 01:01 PM, Ethan Furman wrote: Do modifications to _json to support Enum count as major? If they don't make it in to the first alpha, can I put them in the second? You can put them in either. //arry/ ___ python-committers mailing list

Re: [python-committers] Reminder: Python 3.4 alpha 1 release is Saturday August 3

2013-07-30 Thread Ethan Furman
On 07/25/2013 01:07 PM, Larry Hastings wrote: It's about nine days from now. I expect to tag the release late next week. So if you're doing any major brain surgery, please finish it up in the next week or so. Do modifications to _json to support Enum count as major? If they don't make it i

Re: [python-committers] Reminder: Python 3.4 alpha 1 release is Saturday August 3

2013-07-28 Thread R. David Murray
On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 13:07:59 -0700, Larry Hastings wrote: > It's about nine days from now. I expect to tag the release late next > week. So if you're doing any major brain surgery, please finish it up > in the next week or so. FYI I'm planning on working on some non-trivial stuff for the emai

Re: [python-committers] Reminder: Python 3.4 alpha 1 release is Saturday August 3

2013-07-27 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Hi, Le jeudi 25 juillet 2013 à 13:07 -0700, Larry Hastings a écrit : > > It's about nine days from now. I expect to tag the release late next > week. So if you're doing any major brain surgery, please finish it up > in the next week or so. Once http://bugs.python.org/issue18112 is reviewed, t

[python-committers] Reminder: Python 3.4 alpha 1 release is Saturday August 3

2013-07-26 Thread Larry Hastings
It's about nine days from now. I expect to tag the release late next week. So if you're doing any major brain surgery, please finish it up in the next week or so. Your mildly anxious release manager, //arry/ p.s. Anybody have contact information for Jim Hugunin? He left Google back in