Re: [python-committers] number of active core devs [was: Comments on moving issues to GitHub]

2018-06-04 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sun, Jun 03, 2018 at 12:44:55PM -0700, Brett Cannon wrote: > I will admit that I think we lost some core devs who had zero exposure to > GitHub prior to switching and never found the motivation to ramp up on the > new workflow. *raises hand* I'm one of them. Not that I was a prolific core dev

Re: [python-committers] number of active core devs [was: Comments on moving issues to GitHub]

2018-06-03 Thread Victor Stinner
2018-06-03 3:07 GMT+02:00 Guido van Rossum : > The best course of action seems to be to take measures to acquire new > committers (and contributors), not to try and reactivate old inactive > committers. My advice is to spend more time on mentoring and less time to write code yourself. In my experi

Re: [python-committers] number of active core devs

2018-06-03 Thread Tim Peters
[Victor Stinner ] > ... > In short, the feature commit + fix the commit became a single commit :-) > I'd give a lot of weight to that - if I cared about counting commits at all, which I don't ;-) I just recently learned enough about git and github to get my feet wet again. My first patch was to

Re: [python-committers] number of active core devs

2018-06-03 Thread Victor Stinner
2018-06-03 10:27 GMT+02:00 Antoine Pitrou : > That said, it is true that core development activity continues to > shrink, at least according to this particular metric: > https://github.com/python/cpython/graphs/contributors I also noticed a very significant drop in the number of commits in the mas

Re: [python-committers] number of active core devs [was: Comments on moving issues to GitHub]

2018-06-03 Thread Brett Cannon
On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 at 18:08 Guido van Rossum wrote: > Sounds to me like these are probably just past committers who are no > longer active for whatever personal reasons, and took no action when we > moved to GitHub. We basically never remove the commit bit from anyone > except by request, and I o

Re: [python-committers] number of active core devs

2018-06-03 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Le 03/06/2018 à 12:36, Berker Peksağ a écrit : > On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 11:27 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: >> That said, it is true that core development activity continues to >> shrink, at least according to this particular metric: >> https://github.com/python/cpython/graphs/contributors > > I thi

Re: [python-committers] number of active core devs

2018-06-03 Thread Berker Peksağ
On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 11:27 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > That said, it is true that core development activity continues to > shrink, at least according to this particular metric: > https://github.com/python/cpython/graphs/contributors I think the pre-GitHub stats includes merge commits too:

Re: [python-committers] number of active core devs

2018-06-03 Thread Antoine Pitrou
That's not the symptom of a « 50% reduction in activity ». 10 years ago, it was already the case that many core developers were inactive (not necessarily the same as today!). That said, it is true that core development activity continues to shrink, at least according to this particular metric: h

Re: [python-committers] number of active core devs [was: Comments on moving issues to GitHub]

2018-06-02 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 3 June 2018 at 11:07, Guido van Rossum wrote: > Sounds to me like these are probably just past committers who are no > longer active for whatever personal reasons, and took no action when we > moved to GitHub. We basically never remove the commit bit from anyone > except by request, and I only

Re: [python-committers] number of active core devs [was: Comments on moving issues to GitHub]

2018-06-02 Thread Guido van Rossum
Sounds to me like these are probably just past committers who are no longer active for whatever personal reasons, and took no action when we moved to GitHub. We basically never remove the commit bit from anyone except by request, and I only recall seeing one such request, ever. Some of them probabl

Re: [python-committers] number of active core devs [was: Comments on moving issues to GitHub]

2018-06-02 Thread Donald Stufft
Is that a 50% reduction or is that just 50% of the people who could be active are? Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 2, 2018, at 8:33 PM, Ethan Furman wrote: > >> On 06/02/2018 12:46 PM, Mariatta Wijaya wrote: >> >> And perhaps this is to be discussed in a separate thread: even though in the >>