[python-committers] Python 2.6 final today

2008-10-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've been out of town since Friday, but I don't yet see anything in the 700 billion email messages I'm now catching up on that leads me to think we need to delay the release. Yay! I will be on irc later today and will be trolling through the tr

[python-committers] Cutting Python 2.6

2008-10-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Over the next several hours I will be cutting Python 2.6. All lights and buildbots are go for final release tonight. I have not yet heard from Trent about press releases, so we'll have to do those after the fact. I am also planning on releasi

Re: [python-committers] Cutting Python 2.6

2008-10-01 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Over the next several hours I will be cutting Python 2.6. All lights and > buildbots are go for final release tonight. > > I have not yet heard from Trent about press releases, so we'll have to do > those after the fact. P

Re: [python-committers] Cutting Python 2.6

2008-10-01 Thread Benjamin Peterson
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The trunk and 3.0 branches are officially frozen until further notice. You >> /must/ contact me on irc if you need to make any changes. > > Why

Re: [python-committers] Cutting Python 2.6

2008-10-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 1, 2008, at 4:33 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Over the next several hours I will be cutting Python 2.6. All lights and buildbots are go for final release tonight. I

Re: [python-committers] Cutting Python 2.6

2008-10-01 Thread Martin v. Löwis
>> Press releases can lag behind, but I hope that this time the Windows >> and OSX installers will be released together with the main tarball. > > I agree, but I have not heard from Ronald or Martin about that yet. That's because you didn't ask, I guess. > Ronald, are you still planning on buil

Re: [python-committers] Cutting Python 2.6

2008-10-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 1, 2008, at 5:00 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: Press releases can lag behind, but I hope that this time the Windows and OSX installers will be released together with the main tarball. I agree, but I have not heard from Ronald or Martin about t

Re: [python-committers] Cutting Python 2.6

2008-10-01 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> Yes, I should have been more proactive in getting everyone coordinated, > but as I say we've all known about today's release date for a very long > time. Sure. However, creating the tag around 22:00 UTC (or later) makes it fairly difficult for me to create binaries on the same day. To have binar

Re: [python-committers] Cutting Python 2.6

2008-10-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 1, 2008, at 5:19 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: Yes, I should have been more proactive in getting everyone coordinated, but as I say we've all known about today's release date for a very long time. Sure. However, creating the tag around 22:

Re: [python-committers] Cutting Python 2.6

2008-10-01 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> Yes, of course that makes sense. What would be a better time for you > Martin? I would like to at least debug this aspect of the PEP so that > next time we can coordinate better. As I said: If you create the tag in your morning, I can do the binaries before heading home. Please send an email m

Re: [python-committers] Cutting Python 2.6

2008-10-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 1, 2008, at 5:32 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: Yes, of course that makes sense. What would be a better time for you Martin? I would like to at least debug this aspect of the PEP so that next time we can coordinate better. As I said: If yo

Re: [python-committers] Cutting Python 2.6

2008-10-01 Thread Nick Coghlan
Martin v. Löwis wrote: > Of course, Anthony is in a different time zone, so when he created > the tag in his evening, I had all day, and the binaries would still > be available when he got up the next morning. That's a good point - if Barry is on the US west coast somewhere, it actually works out

Re: [python-committers] Cutting Python 2.6

2008-10-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 1, 2008, at 5:44 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: Martin v. Löwis wrote: Of course, Anthony is in a different time zone, so when he created the tag in his evening, I had all day, and the binaries would still be available when he got up the next morni

Re: [python-committers] Cutting Python 2.6

2008-10-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The 2.6 tag has been created. - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSOP1eHEjvBPtnXfVAQLDagP/RrRQrSCzLGBZK06kFR46p42rFv42ixnq IRWgBWd5wRfFAivuMrkntTyTNMniH+ujTeSaJ6oplVY78RGGBmPzERI8xBhOsZj4 HYe/X51Vmjh8hTTYqs

Re: [python-committers] Cutting Python 2.6

2008-10-01 Thread Jesus Cea
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Barry Warsaw wrote: > IIUC, the critical bottleneck is tagging the tree, so the RM needs to > make it far enough through the PEP to get to that point. Of course that > does mean freezing the tree, and I don't think it's too difficult to do > that. I

Re: [python-committers] Cutting Python 2.6

2008-10-01 Thread Anthony Baxter
If there's a screwup, and you need to recut the branch, you want to be sure someone else hasn't been helpful and added something else to the repo. On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Jesus Cea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Barry Warsaw wrote: >> IIUC

[python-committers] sources and docs are available

2008-10-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Although I'm not quite ready to thaw the tree and make the announcement, the Python 2.6 final tarballs are now on dinsdale. If you'd like to grab them and take a look, run the tests, etc, that would be great. @dinsdale[/data/ftp.python.org/pu

Re: [python-committers] sources and docs are available

2008-10-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 1, 2008, at 7:01 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: Although I'm not quite ready to thaw the tree and make the announcement, the Python 2.6 final tarballs are now on dinsdale. If you'd like to grab them and take a look, run the tests, etc, that wo

Re: [python-committers] sources and docs are available

2008-10-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 1, 2008, at 7:06 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: As reported on irc, the source tarballs are too huge because Doc/ build got included. Working on a fix now. The new tarballs are up. I'm re-running the test with them. - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIG

Re: [python-committers] Cutting Python 2.6

2008-10-01 Thread Guido van Rossum
There should be a way to re-tag only the file(s) that contain the fix. On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Anthony Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If there's a screwup, and you need to recut the branch, you want to be > sure someone else hasn't been helpful and added something else to the > repo.

Re: [python-committers] Cutting Python 2.6

2008-10-01 Thread Anthony Baxter
Sure, but that's more fiddly. From experience, when you're cutting releases, making things as simple as possible is a good thing. On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There should be a way to re-tag only the file(s) that contain the fix. > > On Wed, Oct

Re: [python-committers] Cutting Python 2.6

2008-10-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 1, 2008, at 9:47 PM, Anthony Baxter wrote: Sure, but that's more fiddly. From experience, when you're cutting releases, making things as simple as possible is a good thing. Especially when a lot of the process is scripted. - -Barry -B

Re: [python-committers] Cutting Python 2.6

2008-10-01 Thread Anthony Baxter
That's why I wrote the welease.py script. Dunno if you've been using it. I wanted to make the release process as foolproof as possible so I wouldn't screw it up :-) On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Oc

Re: [python-committers] Cutting Python 2.6

2008-10-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 1, 2008, at 10:05 PM, Anthony Baxter wrote: That's why I wrote the welease.py script. Dunno if you've been using it. I wanted to make the release process as foolproof as possible so I wouldn't screw it up :-) Unfortunately, I had a lot of p

[python-committers] python 2.6

2008-10-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Well, I /think/ everything's done, except: * write and send the announcement * Martin to upload msi's tomorrow * fix docs.python.org Actually, I couldn't figure out what to do to make docs.python.org and all the other current/dev docs symlinks do

Re: [python-committers] Cutting Python 2.6

2008-10-01 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> There should be a way to re-tag only the file(s) that contain the fix. It's possible to edit the tag itself (rather than the trunk/maintenance branch), but then you also need to merge the changes back into the trunk. Also, editing the tag effectively makes it a branch; such usage is discouraged

Re: [python-committers] Cutting Python 2.6

2008-10-01 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> You're absolutely right and that sounds good. I will update the PEP > accordingly. Martin, Ronald, Sean, what timezones are you in? I am > US/Eastern. I'm in CET (Central European), that GMT+2 in DST, and GMT+1 otherwise. As for Sean: Sean and me had agreed that we won't do RPMs anymore for

Re: [python-committers] Cutting Python 2.6

2008-10-01 Thread Anthony Baxter
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 4:08 PM, "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> You're absolutely right and that sounds good. I will update the PEP >> accordingly. Martin, Ronald, Sean, what timezones are you in? I am >> US/Eastern. > > I'm in CET (Central European), that GMT+2 in DST, and GMT+1

[python-committers] 3.0rc2 schedule

2008-10-01 Thread Martin v. Löwis
I propose that the release of 3.0rc2 is deferred until all release blockers have been resolved (either by actually fixing them, or by carefully considering that they shouldn't actually block the release). What else is the point of having the "release blocker" priority, if they don't actually manag