Re: [python-committers] More explicit Code of Conduct for the issue tracker & core mailing lists?

2015-07-15 Thread Paul Moore
On 15 July 2015 at 03:29, Nick Coghlan wrote: > Would folks mind if I drafted a CPython Code of Conduct inspired by > their example, and proposed it for inclusion in the Developer's Guide? +1. I particularly like their point "Try not to take offense where no offense was intended. Not everyone sp

Re: [python-committers] More explicit Code of Conduct for the issue tracker & core mailing lists?

2015-07-15 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jul 15, 2015, at 12:29 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: >The FreeBSD community recently posted their Code of Conduct guidelines >for technical discussions at >https://www.freebsd.org/internal/code-of-conduct.html I wouldn't mind something shorter, perhaps a happy middle ground between that and the PSF

Re: [python-committers] More explicit Code of Conduct for the issue tracker & core mailing lists?

2015-07-15 Thread Anthony Baxter
I approve of this. I wonder if we can't radically simplify it? Don't be awful. If someone says 'hey um that makes me uncomfortable' perhaps reconsider what you said. Perhaps say "oh oops, sorry". Don't be an awful person. Codes of conduct are awesome, but it depresses me that we need to write dow

Re: [python-committers] More explicit Code of Conduct for the issue tracker & core mailing lists?

2015-07-15 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Le 15/07/2015 04:29, Nick Coghlan a écrit : > Hi folks, > > The FreeBSD community recently posted their Code of Conduct guidelines > for technical discussions at > https://www.freebsd.org/internal/code-of-conduct.html This looks good, except that the "In Case of Conflict" part doesn't seem to be

Re: [python-committers] More explicit Code of Conduct for the issue tracker & core mailing lists?

2015-07-15 Thread Brett Cannon
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 6:38 AM Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Jul 15, 2015, at 12:29 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > > >The FreeBSD community recently posted their Code of Conduct guidelines > >for technical discussions at > >https://www.freebsd.org/internal/code-of-conduct.html > > I wouldn't mind somethin

Re: [python-committers] More explicit Code of Conduct for the issue tracker & core mailing lists?

2015-07-15 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
On 15.07.2015 04:29, Nick Coghlan wrote: > Hi folks, > > The FreeBSD community recently posted their Code of Conduct guidelines > for technical discussions at > https://www.freebsd.org/internal/code-of-conduct.html Looks like a good start, but as others have mentioned, I think we ought to simplif

Re: [python-committers] More explicit Code of Conduct for the issue tracker & core mailing lists?

2015-07-15 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 12:29:52PM +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote: [...] > I think their guidelines align pretty well with the way we try to run > the CPython issue tracker and the core mailing lists, but we don't > currently spell out those expectations for newcomers (or potential > newcomers) as clear

Re: [python-committers] More explicit Code of Conduct for the issue tracker & core mailing lists?

2015-07-15 Thread Brett Cannon
Three things. One, I won't hold this view against you, Steven, nor should anyone else. You expressed an opinion politely and it wasn't somehow prejudiced against a group of people. You should never worry about expressing an unpopular opinion as long as it's done with respect and not flat-out evil l