On Sun, 15 Jul 2018 at 19:38 Tim Peters wrote:
> [Tim]
>
>> If they tied, that's fine too. Ties favor the status quo (same as if the
>>> proposed change had been rejected). For that reason, I'm not even wedded
>>> to an odd number.
>>>
>>
> [Brett Cannon]
>
>> That's a good point. Since this
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 at 00:17 Chris Jerdonek
wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 11:31 PM, Tim Peters wrote:
> > [Chris Jerdonek]
> >>
> >> I don’t think we should assume that a stalemate would be okay in all
> >> cases. There may be cases in which a decision has to be made (e.g. if
> >> nothing
[Tim]
> > But I'm not sure it's fully appreciated just how active Guido has been
> > in those at times. The "accepted/rejected" at the end of major PEPs is
> > just a small part of that. Along the way, e.g., it's been pretty common
> > to see a "Save your breath. That's not going to happen."
Le 16/07/2018 à 20:05, Tim Peters a écrit :
> [Tim]
>
> > But I'm not sure it's fully appreciated just how active Guido has been
> > in those at times. The "accepted/rejected" at the end of major
> PEPs is
> > just a small part of that. Along the way, e.g., it's been pretty
>
> On 16-Jul-2018, at 04:38 , Tim Peters wrote:
>
> Guido's most visible (well, to us committers) BDFL role has been in "yes/no",
> "go/nogo" language/library design questions, which don't even overlap with
> the PSF's proper concerns.
>
> But I'm not sure it's fully appreciated just how
[Chris Jerdonek]
> ... But one case in the back of my mind that may have prompted my
reply and that might qualify was when there was a randomness-related
>> security issue in the summer of 2016. I believe this is the thread
>> that kicked it off (subject line: "BDFL ruling request: should we
>>
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 at 15:21 Jack Jansen wrote:
>
>
> On 16-Jul-2018, at 04:38 , Tim Peters wrote:
>
> Guido's most visible (well, to us committers) BDFL role has been in
> "yes/no", "go/nogo" language/library design questions, which don't even
> overlap with the PSF's proper concerns.
>
> But
[Antoine]
> I know what python-ideas can be like routinely (I do read it at times).
>
> I think the general idea of my comment is that the signal-to-noise ratio
> on python-ideas is so low that, whether or not Guido had remained BDFL,
> we would still have a productivity problem to solve there.
>
[Chris Jerdonek]
> I don’t think we should assume that a stalemate would be okay in all
> cases. There may be cases in which a decision has to be made (e.g. if
> nothing changes, bad things will happen). I think one of the most important
> roles a BDFL serves is to provide a mechanism of last
On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 11:31 PM, Tim Peters wrote:
> [Chris Jerdonek]
>>
>> I don’t think we should assume that a stalemate would be okay in all
>> cases. There may be cases in which a decision has to be made (e.g. if
>> nothing changes, bad things will happen). I think one of the most important
Le 16/07/2018 à 04:38, Tim Peters a écrit :
>
> But I'm not sure it's fully appreciated just how active Guido has been
> in those at times. The "accepted/rejected" at the end of major PEPs is
> just a small part of that. Along the way, e.g., it's been pretty common
> to see a "Save your
[Tim]
> Guido's most visible (well, to us committers) BDFL role has been in
> "yes/no", "go/nogo" language/library design questions, which don't even
> overlap with the PSF's proper concerns.
>
> But I'm not sure it's fully appreciated just how active Guido has been in
> those at times. The
On Mon, Jul 16, 2018, 17:02 Tim Peters, wrote:
> [Tim]
>
>> Guido's most visible (well, to us committers) BDFL role has been in
>> "yes/no", "go/nogo" language/library design questions, which don't even
>> overlap with the PSF's proper concerns.
>>
>> But I'm not sure it's fully appreciated just
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