[Python-Dev] Re: Is msvcr71.dll re-redistributable?

2005-02-02 Thread Terry Reedy
"Phillip J. Eby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > So, in an amusing turn of events, the EULA actually appears to forbid the > current offering of Python for Windows, since it does not have such a > EULA. Except of course that MS gave Python developers several copie

RE: [Python-Dev] Is msvcr71.dll re-redistributable?

2005-02-02 Thread Tony Meyer
(I should point out the thread that starts here, too: in case anyone isn't aware of it). > Sounds like this puts all Python users in the clear, since > Python is the Licensee Software in that case. So, anybody can > distri

RE: [Python-Dev] Is msvcr71.dll re-redistributable?

2005-02-02 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 01:23 PM 2/3/05 +1300, Tony Meyer wrote: (Users giving the software directly to someone else, rather than downloading from the official site, is probably covered by: """You also agree not to permit further distribution of the Redistributables by your end users except you may permit further redis

Re: [Python-Dev] redux: fractional seconds in strptime

2005-02-02 Thread Brett C.
Everyone went silent on this topic. Does this mean people just stopped caring (which I doubt since I know Skip wants this bad enough to bring it up every so often)? Was it the issue of symmetry with strftime? I am willing to add this (albeit the simple way I proposed in my last email on this

RE: [Python-Dev] Is msvcr71.dll re-redistributable?

2005-02-02 Thread Tony Meyer
[Thomas Heller] >> For the spambayes binary, maybe there should be another >> person adding the msvcr71.dll to the distribution that Tony >> builds? Someone who has a MSVC license, and also is developer >> on the spambayes project? [Tim Peters] > To the best of my knowledge, Tony is distributing

[Python-Dev] A proposal: built in support for abstract methods

2005-02-02 Thread Noam Raphael
Hello, I would like to suggest a new method decorator: abstractmethod. I'm definitely not the only one who've thought about it, but I discussed this on c.l.py, and came to think that it's a nice idea. An even Pythonic! This has nothing to do with type checking and adaptation - or, to be more prec

Re: [Python-Dev] Is msvcr71.dll re-redistributable?

2005-02-02 Thread Tim Peters
[Thomas Heller] > ... > For the spambayes binary, maybe there should be another person adding > the msvcr71.dll to the distribution that Tony builds? Someone who has a > MSVC license, and also is developer on the spambayes project? To the best of my knowledge, Tony is distributing my duly license

Re: [Python-Dev] Is msvcr71.dll re-redistributable?

2005-02-02 Thread Thomas Heller
"Neil Hodgson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Anders J. Munch: > >> 1. John X. Programmer buys the product, agrees to the EULA and puts >>the DLL up for download, with the explicit and stated intent of >>distributing it to anyone who needs it. > >Disallowed in 3.1(a): > # you agree: ...

Re: [Python-Dev] Is msvcr71.dll re-redistributable?

2005-02-02 Thread Neil Hodgson
Anders J. Munch: > 1. John X. Programmer buys the product, agrees to the EULA and puts >the DLL up for download, with the explicit and stated intent of >distributing it to anyone who needs it. Disallowed in 3.1(a): # you agree: ... to distribute the Redistributables only ... in # conj

Re: [Python-Dev] Is msvcr71.dll re-redistributable?

2005-02-02 Thread Vincent Wehren
Tony Meyer wrote: [Thanks for bringing this up, BTW, Thomas]. [Thomas Heller] [Vincent Wehren] According to the EULA, Is that the EULA of MS VC++? The full text of the EULA for Visual C++ Toolkit 2003 can be found at http://msdn.microsoft.com/visualc/vctoolkit2003/eula.aspx For VS.NET: http://pro

Re: [Python-Dev] Is msvcr71.dll re-redistributable?

2005-02-02 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
> "Anders" == Anders J Munch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Anders> Unless the EULA contains specific language to forbid such Anders> multi-stage open-ended redistribution, I'd say you can Anders> just re-redistribute away. Anders> but-then-I-am-not-a-lawyer-ly y'rs, Anders I am

Re: [Python-Dev] mimetypes and _winreg

2005-02-02 Thread Thomas Heller
Mike Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Following up on this 12 Jun 2004 post... > > Garth wrote: >> Thomas Heller wrote: >> >Mike Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>I thought it would be nice to try to improve the mimetypes module by >> >>having >> >>it, on Windows, query the Registry to g

Re: [Python-Dev] Is msvcr71.dll re-redistributable?

2005-02-02 Thread Anders J. Munch
>From Tony Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Can anyone here suggest a way to get around this? As a specific > example: the SpamBayes distribution includes a py2exe binary, and it > would be nice (although not essential) to build this with 2.4. > However, at the moment my name goes down as the r

RE: [Python-Dev] Is msvcr71.dll re-redistributable?

2005-02-02 Thread Tony Meyer
[Thanks for bringing this up, BTW, Thomas]. [Thomas Heller] >> The 2.4 python.org installer installs msvcr71.dll on the >> target system. >> >> If someone uses py2exe or a similar tool to create a frozen >> application, is he allowed to redistribute this msvcr71.dll >> to other users together w