Re: [Python-Dev] problem installing current cvs - TabError

2005-06-07 Thread Anthony Baxter
On Wednesday 08 June 2005 07:08, Gregory P. Smith wrote: > ugh. this may be the result of me working on those files recently > without my usual .vimrc in place. i'll take a look. regardless, > where is the TabError coming from? those files are all valid python > even if they do have an annoying

Re: [Python-Dev] problem installing current cvs - TabError

2005-06-07 Thread Brett C.
Gregory P. Smith wrote: [SNIP] > major gripe to -dev: a 'make install' of the full cvs tree should not > be required to test that some changes to existing .py files that pass > their tests (in this case they -are- the tests) are ok to check in. > You actually don't have to. If you execute the in

Re: [Python-Dev] python running in several threads

2005-06-07 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Aahz wrote: >>Under those limitations, do you think, an easy rewrite of execution >>engine is possible to allow simultaneous run of all threads? > > > Short answer: no > > Longer answer: see previous threads about removing the GIL; if you still > have questions, please post to comp.lang.python.

Re: [Python-Dev] problem installing current cvs - TabError

2005-06-07 Thread Gregory P. Smith
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 08:49:11PM +0200, Irmen de Jong wrote: > furthermore the 'make install' of current cvs fails halfway trough > with the following errors: > >. >. > Compiling /opt/python25/lib/python2.5/bsddb/test/test_associate.py ... > Sorry: TabError: ('inconsistent use of

Re: [Python-Dev] Thoughts on stdlib evolvement

2005-06-07 Thread dstanek
> Fernando Perez wrote: >> Skip Montanaro wrote: >> >> I've wondered if it wouldn't be better if the std lib were all stuffed >> into its >> own namespace: >> >> from std import urllib >> >> If a more structured approach is desired, it could be >> >> from std.www import urllib > > One may want to l

Re: [Python-Dev] Thoughts on stdlib evolvement

2005-06-07 Thread Ron Adam
Bob Ippolito wrote: > > On Jun 7, 2005, at 11:47 AM, Josiah Carlson wrote: > >> Ron Adam wrote: >> [snip] >> >>> Having less in the core distribution means smaller complete >>> applications >>> to install when py2exe is used. There also needs to be some assurance >>> that the standard librar

Re: [Python-Dev] Thoughts on stdlib evolvement

2005-06-07 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Jun 7, 2005, at 11:47 AM, Josiah Carlson wrote: > Ron Adam wrote: > [snip] > >> Having less in the core distribution means smaller complete >> applications >> to install when py2exe is used. There also needs to be some >> assurance >> that the standard library has as few bugs in it as pos

[Python-Dev] problem installing current cvs

2005-06-07 Thread Irmen de Jong
Hi, I'm having 2 problems with the current cvs : During compilation this warning occurs: *** WARNING: renaming "dbm" since importing it failed: build/lib.linux-i686-2.5/ dbm.so: undefined symbol: dbm_firstkey and the 'dbm' module is unavailable. I'm running MandrakeLinux 2005 (10.2) gcc 3.4.3 (I'

Re: [Python-Dev] Thoughts on stdlib evolvement

2005-06-07 Thread Josiah Carlson
Ron Adam wrote: [snip] > Having less in the core distribution means smaller complete applications > to install when py2exe is used. There also needs to be some assurance > that the standard library has as few bugs in it as possible. The more > that's added to it, the more work and testing to d

Re: [Python-Dev] Thoughts on stdlib evolvement

2005-06-07 Thread Ron Adam
Reinhold Birkenfeld wrote: > Hello, > > I am currently having some thoughts about the standard library, with regard > to Python 2.5 and 3.0. Since I don't want to withhold them from you, here > are they ;) > > - Flat namespace: Should we tend to a more hierarchic library (e.g. > inet.url, inet.

Re: [Python-Dev] Thoughts on stdlib evolvement

2005-06-07 Thread Reinhold Birkenfeld
Fernando Perez wrote: > Skip Montanaro wrote: > >> I wouldn't mind a stdlib that defined a set of top-level packages (some of >> which might be wholly unpopulated by modules in the standard distribution) >> It might, for example, define a gui package and gui.Tkinter and gui._tkinter >> modules, le

Re: [Python-Dev] Thoughts on stdlib evolvement

2005-06-07 Thread Reinhold Birkenfeld
Skip Montanaro wrote: > Tim> On 6/6/05, Reinhold Birkenfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> - Flat namespace: Should we tend to a more hierarchic library (e.g. > >> inet.url, inet.http, inet.nntp)? This would increase clarity when > >> searching for a module. > > Tim> -1. I

Re: [Python-Dev] python running in several threads

2005-06-07 Thread Aahz
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005, Martin Aliger wrote: > > Under those limitations, do you think, an easy rewrite of execution > engine is possible to allow simultaneous run of all threads? Short answer: no Longer answer: see previous threads about removing the GIL; if you still have questions, please post t

[Python-Dev] python running in several threads

2005-06-07 Thread Martin Aliger
Hello Python developers, I know this is developers list and I hope I'm right here. I'm using python as scripting engine embedded in application but issue should be more general. When several scripts are executed simultaneously (under several threads) one have to acquire/release locks. This degrad

Re: [Python-Dev] Thoughts on stdlib evolvement

2005-06-07 Thread David Stanek
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 01:38:36PM -0500, Skip Montanaro wrote: > > > Reinhold> - Flat namespace: Should we tend to a more hierarchic library > Reinhold> (e.g. inet.url, inet.http, inet.nntp)? This would increase > Reinhold> clarity when searching for a module. > > We've talked