Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] commit of r41352 - in python/trunk: . Lib Lib/distutils Lib/distutils/command Lib/encodings

2005-10-30 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Noam Raphael wrote: Won't svn propedit svn:ignore . do the trick? It certainly would. Thanks for pointing that out. Regards, Martin ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe:

Re: [Python-Dev] Freezing the CVS on Oct 26 for SVN switchover

2005-10-30 Thread skip
Tim Excellent suggestions! I have a few to pass on: ... Tim, Thanks for the tips. As a new svn user myself, I find these helpful. These are precisely the things the Wiki would be good for. They don't prescribe policy. They help people in a general way to migrate from cvs to svn

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] commit of r41352 - in python/trunk: . Lib Lib/distutils Lib/distutils/command Lib/encodings

2005-10-30 Thread skip
Fred Shouldn't we simply remove the .cvsignore files? Subversion Fred doesn't use them, so they'll just end up getting out of sync with Fred the svn:ignore properties. Is there some equivalent? If so, can we convert the .cvsignore files before deleting them? Skip

[Python-Dev] svn checksum error

2005-10-30 Thread skip
I tried svn up to bring my sandbox up-to-date and got this output: % svn up UInclude/unicodeobject.h subversion/libsvn_wc/update_editor.c:1609: (apr_err=155017) svn: Checksum mismatch for 'Objects/.svn/text-base/unicodeobject.c.svn-base'; expected:

Re: [Python-Dev] Freezing the CVS on Oct 26 for SVN switchover

2005-10-30 Thread skip
Tim Excellent suggestions! I have a few to pass on: skip These are precisely the things the Wiki would be good for. I went ahead and used Tim's note as the basis for a page on the wiki: http://wiki.python.org/moin/CvsToSvn It's linked from the PythonDevelopers page (a page of

Re: [Python-Dev] svn checksum error

2005-10-30 Thread Fredrik Lundh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried svn up to bring my sandbox up-to-date and got this output: % svn up UInclude/unicodeobject.h subversion/libsvn_wc/update_editor.c:1609: (apr_err=155017) svn: Checksum mismatch for 'Objects/.svn/text-base/unicodeobject.c.svn-base';

Re: [Python-Dev] svn:ignore (Was: [Python-checkins] commit of r41352 - in python/trunk: . Lib Lib/distutils Lib/distutils/command Lib/encodings)

2005-10-30 Thread Martin v. Löwis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fred Shouldn't we simply remove the .cvsignore files? Subversion Fred doesn't use them, so they'll just end up getting out of sync with Fred the svn:ignore properties. Is there some equivalent? If so, can we convert the .cvsignore files before deleting

Re: [Python-Dev] Freezing the CVS on Oct 26 for SVN switchover

2005-10-30 Thread Martin v. Löwis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I went ahead and used Tim's note as the basis for a page on the wiki: http://wiki.python.org/moin/CvsToSvn It's linked from the PythonDevelopers page (a page of previously dubious necessity). I have pretty much the same reservations against Wikis as Brett

Re: [Python-Dev] svn checksum error

2005-10-30 Thread Martin v. Löwis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried svn up to bring my sandbox up-to-date and got this output: % svn up UInclude/unicodeobject.h subversion/libsvn_wc/update_editor.c:1609: (apr_err=155017) svn: Checksum mismatch for 'Objects/.svn/text-base/unicodeobject.c.svn-base';

Re: [Python-Dev] Parser and Runtime: Divorced!

2005-10-30 Thread Evan Jones
On Oct 26, 2005, at 20:02, Evan Jones wrote: In the process of doing this, I came across a comment mentioning that it would be desirable to separate the parser. Is there any interest in doing this? I now have a vague idea about how to do this. Of course, there is no point in making changes

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 351, the freeze protocol

2005-10-30 Thread Noam Raphael
Hello, It seems that we both agree that freezing is cool (-; . We disagree on whether a copy-on-write behaviour is desired. Your arguments agains copy-on-write are: 1. It's not needed. 2. It's complicated to implement. But first of all, you didn't like my use cases. I want to argue with that.

[Python-Dev] StreamHandler eating exceptions

2005-10-30 Thread Gustavo Niemeyer
The StreamHandler available under the logging package is currently catching all exceptions under the emit() method call. In the Handler.handleError() documentation it's mentioned that it's implemented like that because users do not care about errors in the logging system. I'd like to apply the

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 351, the freeze protocol

2005-10-30 Thread Antoine Pitrou
It allows everything in Python to be both mutable and hashable, I don't understand, since it's already the case. Any user-defined object is at the same time mutable and hashable. And if you want the hash value to follow the changes in attribute values, just define an appropriate __hash__

Re: [Python-Dev] svn checksum error

2005-10-30 Thread skip
Martin The natural question then is: what operating system, what Martin subversion version are you using? Sorry, wasn't thinking in terms of svn bugs. I was anticipating some sort of obvious pilot error. I am on Mac OSX 10.3.9, running svn 1.1.3 I built from source back in the May

Re: [Python-Dev] svn checksum error

2005-10-30 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Le dimanche 30 octobre 2005 à 19:08 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Sorry, wasn't thinking in terms of svn bugs. I was anticipating some sort of obvious pilot error. I am on Mac OSX 10.3.9, running svn 1.1.3 I built from source back in the May timeframe. Should I upgrade to 1.2.3 as a

Re: [Python-Dev] Divorcing str and unicode (no more implicit conversions).

2005-10-30 Thread François Pinard
[Martin von Löwis] My canonical example is François Pinard, who keeps requesting it, saying that local people where surprised they couldn't use accented characters in Python. Perhaps that's because he actually is Quebecian :-) I presume I should comment a bit on this. People here are

Re: [Python-Dev] Divorcing str and unicode (no more implicit conversions).

2005-10-30 Thread Adam Olsen
On 10/30/05, François Pinard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All development is done in house by French people. All documentation, external or internal, comments, identifier and function names, everything is in French. Some of the developers here have had a long programming life, while they only

Re: [Python-Dev] StreamHandler eating exceptions

2005-10-30 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
On Sunday 30 October 2005 18:37, Gustavo Niemeyer wrote: I'd like to apply the following patch: +1 Might want to include SystemExit as well, though I think that's less likely to be seen in practice. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 351, the freeze protocol

2005-10-30 Thread Josiah Carlson
Noam Raphael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, It seems that we both agree that freezing is cool (-; . We disagree on whether a copy-on-write behaviour is desired. Your arguments agains copy-on-write are: 1. It's not needed. 2. It's complicated to implement. But first of all, you

Re: [Python-Dev] svn checksum error

2005-10-30 Thread Martin v. Löwis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin The natural question then is: what operating system, what Martin subversion version are you using? Sorry, wasn't thinking in terms of svn bugs. I was anticipating some sort of obvious pilot error. I am on Mac OSX 10.3.9, running svn 1.1.3 I built