Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6 and 3.0

2008-02-25 Thread Christian Heimes
Barry Warsaw wrote: > From the follow ups, it sounds like others can pitch in here. A > question though: is it reasonable to hold up the monthly release because > a binary build we're going to make available can't be done at the same > time? > > My preference (at least for the alphas) is "no". I

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Python 2.6 and 3.0

2008-02-25 Thread Christian Heimes
Martin v. Löwis wrote: > I've looked at it, and I seriously doubt that. In WiX, you need to > specify a fixed file list (perhaps with wildcards; I'm unsure). This > will be tricky for Python, where the list of files to be installed > changes all the time. > > You *need* to have a turing-complete pa

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Python 2.6 and 3.0

2008-02-25 Thread Christian Heimes
Martin v. Löwis wrote: > No, I still haven't found a solution. I do want to use the merge > module; anything else probably isn't going to work. Da...ng Didn't you prepare a new MSI installer for 3.0a2 that includes the VS Redist MSM for X86? I vaguely remember that you've replaced my installer wit

Re: [Python-Dev] February bug day outcome

2008-02-25 Thread Neal Norwitz
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -On [20080226 06:05], Neal Norwitz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > sparc solaris10 > > amd64 gentoo (this is really an ubuntu 6.10 box) > > x86 gentoo (*) > > g4 os x (this one has svn problems from

Re: [Python-Dev] February bug day outcome

2008-02-25 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven
-On [20080226 06:05], Neal Norwitz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > sparc solaris10 > amd64 gentoo (this is really an ubuntu 6.10 box) > x86 gentoo (*) > g4 os x (this one has svn problems from time to time which is odd >given that it is the only box colocated with the svn server) > some win xp bo

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Python 2.6 and 3.0

2008-02-25 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven
-On [20080225 23:03], "Martin v. Löwis" ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >No, I still haven't found a solution. I do want to use the merge >module; anything else probably isn't going to work. I updated the ticket with some links to how to approach this issue. -- Jer

Re: [Python-Dev] February bug day outcome

2008-02-25 Thread Neal Norwitz
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That's a really good idea. At least for the alpha's I would like to > have a policy that the monthly release goes out unless > > 1) There are critical bugs open for 2.6 and/or 3.0 > 2) The important buildbots are red

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6 and 3.0 ...and applink.c?

2008-02-25 Thread Neal Norwitz
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Bugbee, Larry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Barry, > > A question Do you know if OpenSSL's applink.c will be included in > the Windows builds? If so, and I hope it is, great! > > If not, I'd like to encourage its inclusion. The best way to encourage its

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6 and 3.0

2008-02-25 Thread David Bolen
Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Feb 24, 2008, at 1:57 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: > >>> It very well might. See Christian Heimes's follow up re: Windows >>> builds. OTOH, I'm okay if at least for the alphas, the binary >>> builds lag behind the source releases, though I'd like

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6 and 3.0 ...and applink.c?

2008-02-25 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Larry, On Feb 25, 2008, at 5:20 PM, Bugbee, Larry wrote: > A question Do you know if OpenSSL's applink.c will be included in > the Windows builds? If so, and I hope it is, great! Honestly, I have no idea! I don't have any Windows machines

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6 and 3.0 ...and applink.c?

2008-02-25 Thread Bugbee, Larry
Hi Barry, A question Do you know if OpenSSL's applink.c will be included in the Windows builds? If so, and I hope it is, great! If not, I'd like to encourage its inclusion. Doing so will permit Python to be used with OpenSSL 0.9.8x on Windows platforms without a user trying to find someb

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Python 2.6 and 3.0

2008-02-25 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> On the one hand a XML based MSI generator could be easier to maintain. I've looked at it, and I seriously doubt that. In WiX, you need to specify a fixed file list (perhaps with wildcards; I'm unsure). This will be tricky for Python, where the list of files to be installed changes all the time.

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Python 2.6 and 3.0

2008-02-25 Thread Martin v. Löwis
>> For the MSI installers you also need Python 2.5, your pywin32 package >> and some additional tools like the help compiler and cabarc.exe. > > Have you looked at http://wix.sourceforge.net/ ? Yes. Martin ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Python 2.6 and 3.0

2008-02-25 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> Have you solved the problem with the VS CRT redist > (http://bugs.python.org/issue1569)? Maybe Mark is able to assist you. No, I still haven't found a solution. I do want to use the merge module; anything else probably isn't going to work. Regards, Martin ___

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-25 Thread Thomas Hervé
Facundo Batista a écrit : > 2008/2/25, Facundo Batista <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >> 2008/2/25, Christian Heimes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >> > Thomas Herve has worked out a patch: http://bugs.python.org/issue2177 >> >> After reviewing, testing and etc, I commited it. Let's see the buildbots! :) >>

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Python 2.6 and 3.0

2008-02-25 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 24, 2008, at 1:57 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: >> It very well might. See Christian Heimes's follow up re: Windows >> builds. OTOH, I'm okay if at least for the alphas, the binary >> builds lag behind the source releases, though I'd like

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6 and 3.0

2008-02-25 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 24, 2008, at 9:19 AM, Christian Heimes wrote: > Barry Warsaw wrote: >> I'd also like for us to consider doing regular monthly releases. >> Several other FLOSS projects I'm involved with are doing this to very >> good success. The nice thing is

Re: [Python-Dev] February bug day outcome

2008-02-25 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 24, 2008, at 10:06 PM, Neal Norwitz wrote: > On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 6:52 PM, A.M. Kuchling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Yesterday's bug day was another success, closing 48 issues. Several >> committers were there: Facundo Bastista, Georg Bra

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-25 Thread Facundo Batista
2008/2/25, Facundo Batista <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 2008/2/25, Christian Heimes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Thomas Herve has worked out a patch: http://bugs.python.org/issue2177 > > After reviewing, testing and etc, I commited it. Let's see the buildbots! :) Some are green, now, but others still ar

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Python 2.6 and 3.0

2008-02-25 Thread Michael Foord
Christian Heimes wrote: > Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote: > >> Have you looked at http://wix.sourceforge.net/ ? >> > > WiX looks interesting but I'm neither in the position to change the > installer nor do I have a strong opinion. It's Martin's area of expertise. > > On the one hand a

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-25 Thread Facundo Batista
2008/2/25, Christian Heimes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Thomas Herve has worked out a patch: http://bugs.python.org/issue2177 After reviewing, testing and etc, I commited it. Let's see the buildbots! :) -- .Facundo Blog: http://www.taniquetil.com.ar/plog/ PyAr: http://www.python.org/ar/ ___

Re: [Python-Dev] February bug day outcome

2008-02-25 Thread A.M. Kuchling
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 07:06:42PM -0800, Neal Norwitz wrote: > I'd rather push it out to mid-month assuming Barry starts releasing > alphas at the end of each month. That should provide some time to > stabalize. Any one see the buildbots recently? :-( > http://www.python.org/dev/buildbot/all/ I

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Python 2.6 and 3.0

2008-02-25 Thread Christian Heimes
Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote: > Have you looked at http://wix.sourceforge.net/ ? WiX looks interesting but I'm neither in the position to change the installer nor do I have a strong opinion. It's Martin's area of expertise. On the one hand a XML based MSI generator could be easier to maint

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Python 2.6 and 3.0

2008-02-25 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven
-On [20080225 16:02], Christian Heimes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >For the MSI installers you also need Python 2.5, your pywin32 package >and some additional tools like the help compiler and cabarc.exe. Have you looked at http://wix.sourceforge.net/ ? -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / a

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Python 2.6 and 3.0

2008-02-25 Thread Christian Heimes
Mark Hammond wrote: > Me too - I still regularly build the svn version of Python, and although I > don't regularly turn them into .MSI files, I'm confident I could learn how to > do that ;) I understand that over time the binary process will need some > tweaking, but in the general case, I expe

Re: [Python-Dev] optimizing out local variables

2008-02-25 Thread Christian Heimes
Gregory P. Smith wrote: > On 2/24/08, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Let's only do it for -O; the optimization may interfere with debugging the >> code. > > > Does anyone ever actually bother to use -O? People may start bothering to use -O when it's giving them a speedup for real

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-25 Thread Christian Heimes
Facundo Batista wrote: > All fail in test_compiler.py. Thomas Herve has worked out a patch: http://bugs.python.org/issue2177 Christian ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: ht

[Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-25 Thread Facundo Batista
All fail in test_compiler.py. -- .Facundo Blog: http://www.taniquetil.com.ar/plog/ PyAr: http://www.python.org/ar/ ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python

Re: [Python-Dev] February bug day outcome

2008-02-25 Thread Facundo Batista
2008/2/25, A.M. Kuchling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Should we have one next month? The PyCon sprint will fall on Monday > through Thursday, and few people not at PyCon will be available during > the work week. OTOH, if we scheduled a bug day for the 29th, that's > two weeks after the conference,