Re: [Python-Dev] generated NEWS files

2008-04-10 Thread Gregory P. Smith
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 6:24 PM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Also, there's the issue of which section of the NEWS file an entry > should be added. That's often subjective. > Agreed. For example we have both Library and Extension Module categories in the NEWS file. I always e

Re: [Python-Dev] generated NEWS files

2008-04-10 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Benjamin Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In the past we haven't done that because often the change logs are > > either too chatty (they do administrative stuff that doesn't des

Re: [Python-Dev] generated NEWS files

2008-04-10 Thread Benjamin Peterson
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In the past we haven't done that because often the change logs are > either too chatty (they do administrative stuff that doesn't deserve a > NEWS entry) or they are too brief (in the heat of the battle > developers d

Re: [Python-Dev] generated NEWS files

2008-04-10 Thread Guido van Rossum
In the past we haven't done that because often the change logs are either too chatty (they do administrative stuff that doesn't deserve a NEWS entry) or they are too brief (in the heat of the battle developers don't always write great changelog entries). While it's easy to fix NEWS its not easy to

[Python-Dev] generated NEWS files

2008-04-10 Thread Benjamin Peterson
I know that doing merges is rather painful because of the Misc/NEWS files. Would it be possible to have the NEWS log generated from commit messages? I was thinking something like this in a message: Fixed this and that **NEWS:Library** #1234 X is now known as Y. It should be fairly simple to writ

Re: [Python-Dev] Compiling Python on a biarch (PPC/PPC64)

2008-04-10 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> If I understood correctly, you're saying that Python's building process > involves only the C compiler, right? So, in order to fix this issue that > I've found, I only need to modify configure.in file (and maybe > Makefile.pre.in). Is that correct? Correct. There are also some additional shell s

Re: [Python-Dev] Compiling Python on a biarch (PPC/PPC64)

2008-04-10 Thread Sérgio Durigan Júnior
Hi Martin, On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 23:27 +0200, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: > > Can anyone give me a hand on this? As far as I could > > investigate, I must change setup.py in order to get this issue fixed, > > right? > > Wrong. I didn't read your entire message, but this is definitely wrong. > setup.

Re: [Python-Dev] Next monthly sprint/bugfix day?

2008-04-10 Thread Rodrigo Bernardo Pimentel
On Wed, Apr 09 2008 at 11:12:58AM BRT, Trent Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Is there another online sprint/bugfix day in the pipeline? If not, can > there be? ;-) +1. The Sao Paulo User's Group gathered to work on the last Bug Day, and I think it was very productive (both for gener

Re: [Python-Dev] how to easily consume just the parts of eggs that are good for you

2008-04-10 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 12:12 AM 4/10/2008 -0700, Stephen Hansen wrote: >I think PJE's idea here is very good. Just include certain files and >such in the RPM/DEB that will satisfy the >"python-package-management" system. For RPM/DEB users and their OS's >database of packages, its irrelevant largely-- they'll still

Re: [Python-Dev] how to easily consume just the parts of eggs that are good for you

2008-04-10 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Stephen Hansen writes: > > > > > > IMHO, the main system without a package manager is Windows. > > > > > > AFAICT the MacOS platform also lacks in this area. > > > > Actually, they both have them. Windows has Cygwin (rpm-based), while > > for MacOS Fink (deb-based), MacPorts (FreeBSD por

Re: [Python-Dev] [Distutils] how to easily consume just the parts of eggs that are good for you

2008-04-10 Thread Joachim König
Phillip J. Eby wrote: > It would be, if .eggs were a packaging format, rather than a binary > distribution/runtime format. > > Remember "eggs are to Python as jars are to Java" -- a Java .jar > doesn't contain documentation either, unless it's needed at > runtime. Same for configuration files.

Re: [Python-Dev] how to easily consume just the parts of eggs that are good for you

2008-04-10 Thread Stephen Hansen
> > > > IMHO, the main system without a package manager is Windows. > > > > AFAICT the MacOS platform also lacks in this area. > > Actually, they both have them. Windows has Cygwin (rpm-based), while > for MacOS Fink (deb-based), MacPorts (FreeBSD ports-like), and > NetBSD's pkgsrc are all viab