Re: [Python-Dev] Add python.exe to PATH environment variable

2008-09-08 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> But then you don't get to pass arguments to the program, > get to see the output before the window disappears, etc. Did you actually try before posting? Regards, Martin ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-08 Thread skip
Raymond> With the extra time, it would be worthwhile to add dbm.sqlite Raymond> to 3.0 to compensate for the loss of bsddb so that shelves Raymond> won't become useless on Windows builds. My vote is to separate 2.6 and 3.0 then come back together for 2.7 and 3.1. I'm a bit less sure a

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-08 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 7:07 PM, Raymond Hettinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [Guido van Rossum] >> >> Well, from the number of release blockers it sounds like another 3.0 >> beta is the right thing. For 2.6 however I believe we're much closer >> to the finish line -- there aren't all those bytes/

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-08 Thread Raymond Hettinger
[Guido van Rossum] Well, from the number of release blockers it sounds like another 3.0 beta is the right thing. For 2.6 however I believe we're much closer to the finish line -- there aren't all those bytes/str issues to clean up, for example! And apparently the benefit of releasing on schedule

Re: [Python-Dev] Add python.exe to PATH environment variable

2008-09-08 Thread Steve Holden
Greg Ewing wrote: > Martin v. Löwis wrote: > >> OTOH, other things *are* available, such as registered extensions. >> For example, you don't need python on PATH to start a Python script; >> just invoking the .py file will find the Python interpreter from the >> registry. > > But then you don't ge

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-08 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Antoine Pitrou writes: > It's not only the marketing. Having both releases in lock step means the > development process is synchronized between trunk and py3k, that there is no > loss of developer focus, and that merges/backports happen quite naturally. As usual, in theory precision is infinit

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-08 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Antoine Pitrou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Christian Heimes cheimes.de> writes: >> >> Ok, from the marketing perspective it's a nice catch to release 2.6 and >> 3.0 on the same day. "Python 2.6.0 and 3.0.0 released" makes a great >> headline. > > It's not only the

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-08 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Christian Heimes cheimes.de> writes: > > Ok, from the marketing perspective it's a nice catch to release 2.6 and > 3.0 on the same day. "Python 2.6.0 and 3.0.0 released" makes a great > headline. It's not only the marketing. Having both releases in lock step means the development process is sy

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-08 Thread Christian Heimes
Guido van Rossum wrote: Well, from the number of release blockers it sounds like another 3.0 beta is the right thing. For 2.6 however I believe we're much closer to the finish line -- there aren't all those bytes/str issues to clean up, for example! And apparently the benefit of releasing on sche

Re: [Python-Dev] Add python.exe to PATH environment variable

2008-09-08 Thread Greg Ewing
Martin v. Löwis wrote: OTOH, other things *are* available, such as registered extensions. For example, you don't need python on PATH to start a Python script; just invoking the .py file will find the Python interpreter from the registry. But then you don't get to pass arguments to the program,

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-08 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Benjamin Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 6:23 AM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I don't think there's any way we're going to make our October 1s

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-08 Thread Benjamin Peterson
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 6:23 AM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I don't think there's any way we're going to make our October 1st goal. We >> have 8 open release critical bugs, and 18 deferred blockers. We d

Re: [Python-Dev] bsddb

2008-09-08 Thread zooko
On Sep 7, 2008, at 12:04 PM, Gregory P. Smith wrote: FWIW, many years ago in the past when I asked sleepycat about this (long before oracle bought them) they said that python was considered to be the application. Using berkeleydb via python for a commercial application did not require a berkele

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-08 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 6:23 AM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think there's any way we're going to make our October 1st goal. We > have 8 open release critical bugs, and 18 deferred blockers. We do not have > a beta3 Windows installer and I don't have high hopes for rectifying

[Python-Dev] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-08 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I don't think there's any way we're going to make our October 1st goal. We have 8 open release critical bugs, and 18 deferred blockers. We do not have a beta3 Windows installer and I don't have high hopes for rectifying all of these problems i

Re: [Python-Dev] Not releasing rc1 tonight

2008-09-08 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 8, 2008, at 7:37 AM, A.M. Kuchling wrote: On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 12:02:06PM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote: There are 8 open release blockers, a few of which have patches that need review. So I think we are still not ready to release rc1. Bu

Re: [Python-Dev] Not releasing rc1 tonight

2008-09-08 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 7, 2008, at 4:12 PM, Fredrik Lundh wrote: Barry Warsaw wrote: (I have a few minor ET fixes, and possibly a Unicode 5.1 patch, but have had absolutely no time to spend on that. is the window still open?) There are 8 open release blockers

Re: [Python-Dev] Not releasing rc1 tonight

2008-09-08 Thread A.M. Kuchling
On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 12:02:06PM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote: > There are 8 open release blockers, a few of which have patches that need > review. So I think we are still not ready to release rc1. But it > worries me because I think this is going to push the final release > beyond our October

Re: [Python-Dev] Not releasing rc1 tonight

2008-09-08 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Fredrik Lundh pythonware.com> writes: > > So what's the new ETA? Should I set aside some time to work on the > patches, say, tomorrow, or is it too late? Given the state of things in the tracker, I'd say it doesn't look too late. ___ Python-Dev mai

Re: [Python-Dev] ?spurious? Timeout in BSDDB under MS Windows

2008-09-08 Thread Trent Nelson
On Fri, Sep 05, 2008 at 05:55:13PM +0200, Jesus Cea wrote: > Trent, are you available to look at the ?spurious? timeout failures in > bsddb replication code in the Windows buildbot?. > > Ten seconds timeout should be plenty enough. I can't debug any MS > Windows issue myself; this is a Microsoft-f