Re: [Python-Dev] __del__ and tp_dealloc in the IO lib

2009-01-18 Thread Adam Olsen
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: > On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Gregory P. Smith wrote: >> +1 on getting rid of the IOBase __del__ in the C rewrite in favor of >> tp_dealloc. >> >> On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 11:53 PM, Christian Heimes wrote: >>> >>> Brett Cannon schrieb:

Re: [Python-Dev] Single Sign-On for *.python.org

2009-01-18 Thread Ben Finney
"Martin v. Löwis" writes: > > I've also had fruitless discussions about adding OpenID > > authentication to Roundup. > > Did you offer patches to roundup during these discussions? I grabbed the source code, but got lost trying to figure out how Roundup does authentication internally. So, no pat

Re: [Python-Dev] Single Sign-On for *.python.org

2009-01-18 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> I've also had fruitless discussions about adding OpenID authentication > to Roundup. Did you offer patches to roundup during these discussions? Regards, Martin ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/p

Re: [Python-Dev] __del__ and tp_dealloc in the IO lib

2009-01-18 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Gregory P. Smith wrote: > +1 on getting rid of the IOBase __del__ in the C rewrite in favor of > tp_dealloc. > > On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 11:53 PM, Christian Heimes wrote: >> >> Brett Cannon schrieb: >> > Fine by me. People should be using the context manager for g

Re: [Python-Dev] __del__ and tp_dealloc in the IO lib

2009-01-18 Thread Gregory P. Smith
+1 on getting rid of the IOBase __del__ in the C rewrite in favor of tp_dealloc. On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 11:53 PM, Christian Heimes wrote: > Brett Cannon schrieb: > > Fine by me. People should be using the context manager for guaranteed > > file closure anyway IMO. > Yes they should. (how I re

Re: [Python-Dev] bundlebuilder broken in 2.6

2009-01-18 Thread Ned Deily
In article , Barry Scott wrote: > What is the replacement for bundlebuilder for 3.0? Lack of > bundlebuilder becomes a serious porting problem for me. > I deliver pysvn WOrkbench as a bundle to simplify installation > by my users. Most people are using py2app these days to produce OSX applicatio

Re: [Python-Dev] Single Sign-On for *.python.org

2009-01-18 Thread Ben Finney
Calvin Spealman writes: > I would like to see that kind of coherence. I think anything that gets > in the way of someone getting in is in danger of holding someone off > from contributing something, be it wiki edits, bug reports, or > packages. One might also ask about the mailman lists here. Th

Re: [Python-Dev] Strategies for debugging buildbot failures?

2009-01-18 Thread Benjamin Peterson
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 6:25 PM, wrote: > >Mark> Is it acceptable to commit a change (to the trunk or py3k, not to >Mark> the release branches) solely for the purpose of getting more >Mark> information about a failure? > > I think it would be kind of nice if you could force a buildbot

Re: [Python-Dev] Strategies for debugging buildbot failures?

2009-01-18 Thread skip
Mark> Is it acceptable to commit a change (to the trunk or py3k, not to Mark> the release branches) solely for the purpose of getting more Mark> information about a failure? I think it would be kind of nice if you could force a buildbot to use a specific branch. You could then check

Re: [Python-Dev] __del__ and tp_dealloc in the IO lib

2009-01-18 Thread Christian Heimes
Brett Cannon schrieb: > Fine by me. People should be using the context manager for guaranteed > file closure anyway IMO. You make a very good point! Perhaps we should stop promising that files get closed as soon as possible and encourage people in using the with statement. Christian

Re: [Python-Dev] __del__ and tp_dealloc in the IO lib

2009-01-18 Thread Brett Cannon
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 15:03, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > Dear python-dev, > > The Python implementation of IOBase, the base class for everything IO, has the > (strange) idea to define a __del__ method. It is probably meant to avoid code > duplication, so that users subclassing IOBase automatically g

[Python-Dev] __del__ and tp_dealloc in the IO lib

2009-01-18 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Dear python-dev, The Python implementation of IOBase, the base class for everything IO, has the (strange) idea to define a __del__ method. It is probably meant to avoid code duplication, so that users subclassing IOBase automatically get the close-on-destruct behaviour. (there is an even stranger

Re: [Python-Dev] Support for the Haiku OS

2009-01-18 Thread scott mc
The config.guess/.sub files in python/trunk/Modules/_ctypes/libffi are from , which is just before Haiku was finally added to the offical versions from gnulib. http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=config.git;a=blob_plain;f=config.guess;hb=HEAD and http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=config.git;

Re: [Python-Dev] No email about buildbot failures for 3.1?

2009-01-18 Thread Brett Cannon
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 14:49, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: >>> What is the specific checkin? What specific builds failed? >>> >> >> How about one that just happened: >> http://www.python.org/dev/buildbot/3.x.stable/sparc%20solaris10%20gcc%203.x/builds/126 >> . If you look at the python-checkins for t

Re: [Python-Dev] No email about buildbot failures for 3.1?

2009-01-18 Thread Martin v. Löwis
>> What is the specific checkin? What specific builds failed? >> > > How about one that just happened: > http://www.python.org/dev/buildbot/3.x.stable/sparc%20solaris10%20gcc%203.x/builds/126 > . If you look at the python-checkins for the revision > (http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-checkin

Re: [Python-Dev] Help! Vista symlinks and IDLE

2009-01-18 Thread Jeff Hall
I'm glad someone sent this out... I was having this EXACT problem today I've got it installed on my wife's computer and I'm certain that it worked when I first installed 3.0a but it stopped working (I didn't update Python but my wife has done several Vista security updates)... Hopefully, that will

Re: [Python-Dev] Single Sign-On for *.python.org

2009-01-18 Thread Steve Holden
Martin v. Löwis wrote: >> So, the question is - >> should we open a ticket for Single Sign-On system for *.python.org or >> it bugs only me? > > Submission of tickets is futile. Code talks. > And don't forget that while a common authentication base is fine, you need to ensure that various service

Re: [Python-Dev] No email about buildbot failures for 3.1?

2009-01-18 Thread Brett Cannon
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 14:22, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: > >> All I know is that I checked in a test that failed on all >> case-sensitive file system for py3k (3.1) and there does not appear to >> be a single email about it. And the buildbots very clearly had the >> chance to fail. > > What is the

Re: [Python-Dev] No email about buildbot failures for 3.1?

2009-01-18 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> All I know is that I checked in a test that failed on all > case-sensitive file system for py3k (3.1) and there does not appear to > be a single email about it. And the buildbots very clearly had the > chance to fail. What is the specific checkin? What specific builds failed? Regards, Martin _

Re: [Python-Dev] No email about buildbot failures for 3.1?

2009-01-18 Thread Brett Cannon
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 01:53, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: > Brett Cannon wrote: >> I just realized that I had not received any emails on python-checkins >> about the buildbot failures I accidentally caused. And then I noticed >> that I had not gotten any emails for py3k in a while. Did that get >> s

[Python-Dev] Help! Vista symlinks and IDLE

2009-01-18 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Apparently, if you install Python into a localized version of \Program Files on Vista (such as \Programas, or \Programmer), IDLE fails to start; see http://bugs.python.org/3881 Apparently, Tcl cannot properly initialize on such a system, and apparently, this is related to these folders being symli

Re: [Python-Dev] Single Sign-On for *.python.org

2009-01-18 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> So, the question is - > should we open a ticket for Single Sign-On system for *.python.org or > it bugs only me? Submission of tickets is futile. Code talks. Regards, Martin ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mail

Re: [Python-Dev] Single Sign-On for *.python.org

2009-01-18 Thread Calvin Spealman
I would like to see that kind of coherence. I think anything that gets in the way of someone getting in is in danger of holding someone off from contributing something, be it wiki edits, bug reports, or packages. One might also ask about the mailman lists here. On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 2:21 PM, ana

Re: [Python-Dev] Single Sign-On for *.python.org

2009-01-18 Thread Terry Reedy
anatoly techtonik wrote: Hello, Should we open a ticket to make a single sign-on service for *.python.org sites? There are at least 3 logins there may be more, for example if we are going to make some online content edition/comment system for docs. These are: bugs.python.org wiki.python.org pyp

[Python-Dev] Single Sign-On for *.python.org

2009-01-18 Thread anatoly techtonik
Hello, Should we open a ticket to make a single sign-on service for *.python.org sites? There are at least 3 logins there may be more, for example if we are going to make some online content edition/comment system for docs. These are: bugs.python.org wiki.python.org pypi.python.org History

Re: [Python-Dev] Strategies for debugging buildbot failures?

2009-01-18 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> Is it acceptable to commit a change (to the trunk or py3k, not to > the release branches) solely for the purpose of getting more > information about a failure? [...] > Alternatively, is it reasonable to create a new branch solely > for the purpose of tracking down one particular problem? Either

Re: [Python-Dev] Strategies for debugging buildbot failures?

2009-01-18 Thread Michael Foord
Mark Dickinson wrote: This is probably a stupid question, but here goes: Can anyone suggest good strategies for debugging buildbot test failures, for problems that aren't reproducible locally? There have been various times in the past that I've wanted to be able to do this. Right now, I'm thin

[Python-Dev] Strategies for debugging buildbot failures?

2009-01-18 Thread Mark Dickinson
This is probably a stupid question, but here goes: Can anyone suggest good strategies for debugging buildbot test failures, for problems that aren't reproducible locally? There have been various times in the past that I've wanted to be able to do this. Right now, I'm thinking particularly of the

Re: [Python-Dev] bundlebuilder broken in 2.6

2009-01-18 Thread Barry Scott
On 17 Jan 2009, at 20:08, Ned Deily wrote: In article <7043cb7c-18f4-4e16-ae0c-cda6ba311...@barrys-emacs.org>, Barry Scott wrote: It seems that the packaging of Mac Python 2.6 is missing at least one file that is critical to the operation of bundlebuilder.py. I've logged the issue as http:/

Re: [Python-Dev] No email about buildbot failures for 3.1?

2009-01-18 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Brett Cannon wrote: > I just realized that I had not received any emails on python-checkins > about the buildbot failures I accidentally caused. And then I noticed > that I had not gotten any emails for py3k in a while. Did that get > switched off on purpose? I'm not even sure that anything change

Re: [Python-Dev] No email about buildbot failures for 3.1?

2009-01-18 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Brett Cannon wrote: > I just realized that I had not received any emails on python-checkins > about the buildbot failures I accidentally caused. And then I noticed > that I had not gotten any emails for py3k in a while. Did that get > switched off on purpose? No, it did not get switched off at all