Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-13 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Daniel (ajax) Diniz wrote: > Status report and roadmap to be posted later today, before date +%s > turns 1234567890 :) Missed that and got almost no tracker work done. Postponed to Monday, after some weekend cleaning. Daniel ___ Python-Dev mailing list

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-13 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Hi Martin, Sorry about being so brief, I got a lot of unexpected interruptions and was rushing things. "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: >> For starters, free form searches, aggregation and filtering of >> results. > > What is "free form searches" (example)? What is aggregation? > What results do you want

Re: [Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 3.0.1

2009-02-13 Thread Benjamin Kaplan
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On behalf of the Python development team, I'm happy to announce the > availability of Python 3.0.1, the first bug fix release of Python 3.0. > Version 3.0.1 fixes dozens of bugs reported si

Re: [Python-Dev] The fate of 3.0.*

2009-02-13 Thread Andrew McNamara
>So what are the expected efforts for 3.1? >- io-in-C >- import-in-Python >- ... anything else? A fixed "email" module. -- Andrew McNamara, Senior Developer, Object Craft http://www.object-craft.com.au/ ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.or

Re: [Python-Dev] The fate of 3.0.*

2009-02-13 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Benjamin Peterson python.org> writes: > > Are we going to keep developing the 3.0 maintenance branch in > expectation of releasing 3.0.2 sometime or will we just focus our > efforts on 3.1? Focusing on 3.1 should be ok. So what are the expected efforts for 3.1? - io-in-C - import-in-Python - ..

Re: [Python-Dev] The fate of 3.0.*

2009-02-13 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 18:35, Benjamin Peterson > wrote: >> >> Are we going to keep developing the 3.0 maintenance branch in >> expectation of releasing 3.0.2 sometime or will we just focus our >> efforts on 3.1? > > I almost said "of course

Re: [Python-Dev] The fate of 3.0.*

2009-02-13 Thread Brett Cannon
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 18:35, Benjamin Peterson wrote: > Are we going to keep developing the 3.0 maintenance branch in > expectation of releasing 3.0.2 sometime or will we just focus our > efforts on 3.1? > I almost said "of course we are", but then I realized that 3.1 is going to be very simila

[Python-Dev] The fate of 3.0.*

2009-02-13 Thread Benjamin Peterson
Are we going to keep developing the 3.0 maintenance branch in expectation of releasing 3.0.2 sometime or will we just focus our efforts on 3.1? -- Regards, Benjamin ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinf

[Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 3.0.1

2009-02-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On behalf of the Python development team, I'm happy to announce the availability of Python 3.0.1, the first bug fix release of Python 3.0. Version 3.0.1 fixes dozens of bugs reported since the release of Python 3.0 on December 3rd, 2008. Pyth

Re: [Python-Dev] Wow!

2009-02-13 Thread Greg Ewing
Brett Cannon wrote: Is there a Python connection I'm missing? http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-sci-satellite-collision15-2009feb15,0,7901281.story Well, the front page of python.org does say "NASA uses Python"... Also it sounds like they could do with a really good garbage collect

Re: [Python-Dev] Small misleadingness in docs

2009-02-13 Thread Greg Ewing
Raymond Hettinger wrote: This smells like a bug that brings issubclass() out of sync with isinstance(). No, it affects both isinstance() and issubclass(). They both raise a TypeError if the purported class object doesn't have a __bases__ attribute that is a tuple. This isn't necessarily wrong

Re: [Python-Dev] Wow!

2009-02-13 Thread Brett Cannon
Is there a Python connection I'm missing? On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 13:12, Raymond Hettinger wrote: > > http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-sci-satellite-collision15-2009feb15,0,7901281.story > ___ > Python-Dev mailing list > Python-Dev@python.org > h

Re: [Python-Dev] Small misleadingness in docs

2009-02-13 Thread Raymond Hettinger
[Greg Ewing] I've discovered something slightly misleading in the docs for PyObject_IsInstance: When testing if B is a subclass of A, if A is B, PyObject_IsSubclass returns true. If A and B are different objects, B‘s __bases__ attribute is searched... This suggests that issubclass(A, A)

[Python-Dev] Small misleadingness in docs

2009-02-13 Thread Greg Ewing
I've discovered something slightly misleading in the docs for PyObject_IsInstance: When testing if B is a subclass of A, if A is B, PyObject_IsSubclass returns true. If A and B are different objects, B‘s __bases__ attribute is searched... This suggests that issubclass(A, A) will always be

Re: [Python-Dev] Adding T_SIZET to structmember.h

2009-02-13 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> Mark, the patch is not trivial, I cannot spend time on this until this > is accepted. Hope you understand. I certainly do understand. So it's likely not going to happen. Regards, Martin ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.pyt

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-13 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> Send emails before they were done :D Again: what's that? > Use a VCS for in-progress activities Hmm. Why do you need a database copy for that? > Figure out how to serialize and submit the work done locally Again, don't understand. too brief. > Share results with interested parties off-t

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-13 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> For starters, free form searches, aggregation and filtering of > results. What is "free form searches" (example)? What is aggregation? What results do you want to filter? (roundup can already filter results quite well) > The web interface is pretty good for handling individual > issues, but not

[Python-Dev] lifting of prohibition against readlines inside a "for line in file" in Py3?

2009-02-13 Thread Mitchell L Model
I discovered today that Python 2's prohibition against performing readlines on a file being iterated over appears to have been lifted in Python 3. Is this intentional? If it is, should it be added to the What's New in the documentation? I haven't been able to find anything mentioning the change

Re: [Python-Dev] Wow!

2009-02-13 Thread Kirk McDonald
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_Syndrome On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Raymond Hettinger wrote: > > http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-sci-satellite-collision15-2009feb15,0,7901281.story > ___ > Python-Dev mailing list > Python-Dev@python.o

[Python-Dev] Wow!

2009-02-13 Thread Raymond Hettinger
http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-sci-satellite-collision15-2009feb15,0,7901281.story ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-de

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-13 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Steve Holden wrote: > Can I just say (without in any way wanting to get involved in what might > be considered as "work") that it's encouraging the tracker received a > bit more TLC we might eventually be able to see at least the occasional > week where the issue count increment was negative :) Th

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-13 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Brett Cannon wrote: > On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 16:45, Daniel (ajax) Diniz wrote: >> I have to test my patch against a good >> representation of the issue, regression tests must pass, 'automated >> test needed' fits well :) > > Go with "Unit test needed" so it's short and to the point and you have a

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-13 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Daniel (ajax) Diniz wrote: > "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: >> I think HTML scraping is a really bad idea. What is it that you >> specifically want to do with these data? > > For starters, free form searches, aggregation and filtering of > results. The web interface is pretty good for handling individual

[Python-Dev] Summary of Python tracker Issues

2009-02-13 Thread Python tracker
ACTIVITY SUMMARY (02/06/09 - 02/13/09) Python tracker at http://bugs.python.org/ To view or respond to any of the issues listed below, click on the issue number. Do NOT respond to this message. 2352 open (+56) / 14720 closed (+22) / 17072 total (+78) Open issues with patches: 803 Average

Re: [Python-Dev] Adding T_SIZET to structmember.h

2009-02-13 Thread Lisandro Dalcin
Done, http://bugs.python.org/issue5248 Mark, the patch is not trivial, I cannot spend time on this until this is accepted. Hope you understand. On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Mark Dickinson wrote: > On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Lisandro Dalcin wrote: >> I would like to propose the inclusi

Re: [Python-Dev] Adding T_SIZET to structmember.h

2009-02-13 Thread Mark Dickinson
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Lisandro Dalcin wrote: > I would like to propose the inclusion of a new T_SIZET in structmember.h > in order to suport 'size_t' struct fields with PyMemberDef. Would such > addition be accepted for 2.7 and 3.1? Please open a feature request at bugs.python.org, and

[Python-Dev] email package sprint?

2009-02-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The email package needs a lot of love, especially for Python 3.0. I'm already signed up for two sprints for Pycon, but if there's enough interest I would try at least to find some time to talk with others about improving the email package. Th

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-13 Thread Georg Brandl
Daniel (ajax) Diniz schrieb: > Over-spammig: > Sorry, Georg! I only noticed all issues in the Documentation > component are auto-assigned to you today. This meant dozens of unasked > for assignments :-/ That's okay, I'll go through them at the weekend and just unassign what I won't manage to do