P.J. Eby pje at telecommunity.com writes:
For example, having a packages reddit (nb: open source, written in
Python), where people can upvote or downvote packages and leave
comments. That's probably the minimum amount of checks and balances
required to avoid problems of the sort the PyPI
Vinay Sajip wrote:
Both of these approaches will also work for {}-formatting. The present thread
really started out with a view to suggesting that the stdlib start adopting
{}-format as native, rather than %-format.
Would it be helpful if I added a section to the Python docs about how to use
Hello,
I am a newbie to this mailing list, i have seen in some mail discussions
about a tar archive creation by forcibly setting the UID/GID to a specific
user (say root).
Te code mentioned goes like this:
tar = tarfile.open(foo.tar.gz, w:gz)
for filename in filenames:
tarinfo =
bheemesh v wrote:
I am a newbie to this mailing list, i have seen in some mail discussions
about a tar archive creation by forcibly setting the UID/GID to a specific
user (say root).
Note that this is the mailing list about core development of the CPython
interpreter, not about general Python
bheemesh v wrote:
Hello,
I am a newbie to this mailing list, i have seen in some mail
discussions about a tar archive creation by forcibly setting the
UID/GID to a specific user (say root).
Hello Bheemesh,
This mailing list is for the development of Python, not for developing
*with*
2009/10/6 P.J. Eby p...@telecommunity.com:
At 02:22 PM 10/5/2009 +0200, Tarek Ziadé wrote:
Setuptools development has been discontinued for a year, and does
patches on Distutils code. Some of these patches are sensitive to any
change
made on Distutils, wether those changes are internal or
Nick Coghlan wrote:
Really? I can understand package owners not being able to add
recommendations for their own packages, but if they can't add comments
how are they meant to correct misunderstandings or redirect
inappropriate messages to the correct forums?
Indeed, yet another reason I would
M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
We've implemented our own bdist_egg now which doesn't use setuptools
and will start to ship eggs in addition to our prebuilt format with
the next releases.
Egg-cellent ;-)
Any chance this tool is open source? Better yet, could it make its way
into distutils asap?
Chris
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
Oh, it was just yet another Zope developer behaving like an ass. Why
am I not surprised?
Actually Plohn, there aren't that many Zope developers left ;-)
Chris - looking mournfully at his sig...
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Fredrik Lundh wrote:
Looks like the quickest fix is to distribute two source packages, one
built the traditional way to eliminate breakage for people using the
current tarball layout, and one built with sdist.
Why the need for two?
Or, asked differently, who would be hurt if the distribution
Tarek Ziadé wrote:
Notice that I am also doing nightly builds of Distutils that can be installed
and tried in released version of Python, and that can be used instead of the
Python's embed Distutils (see the installable tarballs at nightly.ziade.org).
so maybe it's just a matter of continuous
Chris Withers wrote:
M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
We've implemented our own bdist_egg now which doesn't use setuptools
and will start to ship eggs in addition to our prebuilt format with
the next releases.
Egg-cellent ;-)
Any chance this tool is open source? Better yet, could it make its way
Barry Warsaw wrote:
2) PJE releases a new version of setuptools that fixes this problem.
3) We (a.k.a. Tarek with our blessing) hijacks the setuptools name (e.g.
on cheeseshop) and releases a new version
It's a shame you didn't suggest this sooner. It would have avoided the
need for the
M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
mxSetup.py, the module implementing all our distutils extensions,
is available in egenix-mx-base which is open source:
http://www.egenix.com/products/python/mxBase/
I have memories of mxBase having a load of other stuff in it too?
Would it be possible to split
Hi Phil,
It's almost a week since I made this offer. I haven't heard anything
from you. If I've missed anything please let me know and I'll track it
down, otherwise I hope you can have a look at this some time soon.
cheers,
Chris
Chris Withers wrote:
P.J. Eby wrote:
Here's what actually
On 3 Oct, 2009, at 1:40, INADA Naoki wrote:
Confirmed on 10.6 for 2.6.3 and 2.7a0. For 3.2a0 both asserts fail.
OK.
`s = '\xa0'` should be `s = b'\xa0'`.
Should I file a bug?
Please do, that helps us remember that the issue exists.
Ronald
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I'll make the argument that feedback is useful, comments are much less so
and a lot more work.
It would be more useful to allow package users post feedback, visible only
to the package maintainer, and also add support for bugtracker links/etc.
Is the intention of Pypi really to turn it into a
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 5:11 PM, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote:
Senthil Kumaran wrote:
On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 10:43:22AM +0200, Fredrik Lundh wrote:
it's revews like this that makes me wonder if releasing open source is
a good idea:
no egg - worst seen ever, remove it from pypi or
I filed as issue7072.
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.com wrote:
On 3 Oct, 2009, at 1:40, INADA Naoki wrote:
Confirmed on 10.6 for 2.6.3 and 2.7a0. For 3.2a0 both asserts fail.
OK.
`s = '\xa0'` should be `s = b'\xa0'`.
Should I file a bug?
Please do,
Chris Withers wrote:
M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
mxSetup.py, the module implementing all our distutils extensions,
is available in egenix-mx-base which is open source:
http://www.egenix.com/products/python/mxBase/
I have memories of mxBase having a load of other stuff in it too?
Yep, lots of
M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
Would it be possible to split just the distutils extensions into their
own package and get that package as an sdist on PyPI?
Nope.
shame :-(
The complicated stuff does belong somewhere else, but the
basic things need to go into the filename
But everyone's basic
Chris Withers wrote:
M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
The complicated stuff does belong somewhere else, but the
basic things need to go into the filename
But everyone's basic things are different.
The really basic stuff is the same for everyone since it's
dictated by the way Python works on computers
At 03:18 PM 10/6/2009 +0200, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
Note how the package name is mangled... easy_install requires this.
The file name also doesn't tell you that the above is for
a UCS2 Python build. Again, easy_install fails with that information
added to the py2.6 version marker.
Btw, every
At 02:45 PM 10/6/2009 +0100, Chris Withers wrote:
To put this into a way that makes sense to me: I'm volunteering to
keep distribute 0.6 and setuptools 0.6 in sync, no more, no less,
and try and keep that as uncontroversial as possible, and get
setuptools 0.6 releases out to match distribute
At 06:03 PM 10/6/2009 +0200, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
Chris Withers wrote:
Well yeah, and the only sane way I can think to handle this is to have a
metadata file that gets uploaded with each distribution that covers all
these things (and the other things that other people need) and then have
the
P.J. Eby wrote:
At 03:18 PM 10/6/2009 +0200, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
Note how the package name is mangled... easy_install requires this.
The file name also doesn't tell you that the above is for
a UCS2 Python build. Again, easy_install fails with that information
added to the py2.6 version
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 11:03 AM, P.J. Eby p...@telecommunity.com wrote:
At 02:45 PM 10/6/2009 +0100, Chris Withers wrote:
To put this into a way that makes sense to me: I'm volunteering to keep
distribute 0.6 and setuptools 0.6 in sync, no more, no less, and try and
keep that as
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 11:03 AM, P.J. Eby p...@telecommunity.com wrote:
At 02:45 PM 10/6/2009 +0100, Chris Withers wrote:
To put this into a way that makes sense to me: I'm volunteering to keep
distribute 0.6 and
On 6 Oct, 2009, at 21:56, Olemis Lang wrote:
Is it possible to fork `setuptools` somehow ? This way :
Yes, see http://pypi.python.org/pypi/distribute
Ronald
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At 12:16 PM 10/6/2009 -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote:
I think at this point the community should not be forced wait for you
to get a new supply of round tuits. The wait has been too long
already. You can stay on in an advisory role, but I don't think it's
reasonable to block development or
I'm saying that I don't expect setuptools 0.7 to appear before Tarek's
Distribute is mature and in widespread use. IOW I support Tarek's fork
and suggest nobody hold their breath waiting for setuptools 0.7.
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 1:08 PM, P.J. Eby p...@telecommunity.com wrote:
At 12:16 PM
P.J. Eby wrote:
At 06:03 PM 10/6/2009 +0200, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
It goes a bit in the direction of what we had in mind with writing
for our clients: a tool that looks at the Python installation and
automatically finds/downloads/installs the right package from
our website. Only that we wanted
Here are three buildbot farms for three different projects that
exercise various features of setuptools: build, install, sdist_dsc,
bdist_egg, sdist, and various specific requirements that our projects
have, such as the Desert Island Build in which setuptools is not
allowed to download anything
At 01:14 PM 10/6/2009 -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote:
suggest nobody hold their breath waiting for setuptools 0.7.
I've never suggested or implied otherwise.
But, if you like Distribute so much, why not just add it directly to
the stdlib? ;-)
AFAIK, the only reason they've had multiple
At 10:17 PM 10/6/2009 +0200, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
P.J. Eby wrote:
At 06:03 PM 10/6/2009 +0200, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
It goes a bit in the direction of what we had in mind with writing
for our clients: a tool that looks at the Python installation and
automatically finds/downloads/installs the
Has anyone considered the idea of having the string % operator
behave intelligently according to the contents of the format
string?
If it contains one or more valid %-formats, use old-style
formatting; if it contains one or more valid {}-formats,
use new-style formatting.
Ambiguous cases could
Peter Moody wrote:
it's useful to take an
address like 192.168.1.100/24 and derive a bunch of information from
it (like the network address, broadcast address, containing supernets,
etc), but still remember that the original address was 192.168.1.100.
having a separate class or two for this is
Martin v. Löwis wrote:
So if a decision was made to eventually remove % formatting, it would
be reasonable to start migrating code to PEP 3101. However, no such
decision has been made (and hopefully won't be throughout 3.x)
If it's not done during 3.x, then by the time 4.x comes
around, there
Yuvgoog Greenle wrote:
When is the else after a loop executed?
1. When the loop isn't entered at all.
2. When the loop terminates through exhaustion of the list (does this
include when the list was empty?)
3. When the loop didn't exit because of a break statement.
1 and 3 are just special
Paul Moore wrote:
linus and snoopy are hosts not networks, so
making them IPv4Network classes seems wrong. I'd instinctively make
them IPv4Address objects (which, I believe, would work).
However, by allowing IPNetwork objects to also contain
a host address, we seem to be officially sanctioning
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Greg Ewing greg.ew...@canterbury.ac.nz wrote:
Has anyone considered the idea of having the string % operator
behave intelligently according to the contents of the format
string?
If it contains one or more valid %-formats, use old-style
formatting; if it
On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:52:34 -0400, P.J. Eby p...@telecommunity.com
wrote:
Btw, every couple years or so I've sent out a call on the
distutils-SIG to try to get consensus on a format for the platform
tag information used by setuptools. (The first time was before
easy_install even existed.)
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