[Python-Dev] Daily DMGs

2010-05-03 Thread Martin v. Löwis
David Bolen and I started producing daily OSX installers, at http://www.python.org/dev/daily-dmg/ If you find problems with these, please report them to bugs.python.org. Regards, Martin ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.pyth

Re: [Python-Dev] Running Clang 2.7's static analyzer over the code base

2010-05-03 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Steve Holden wrote: > Antoine Pitrou wrote: >> Le Mon, 03 May 2010 16:11:53 -0700, Brett Cannon a écrit : >>> And in reply to Benjamin's question about the whitespace, I guess it >>> actually doesn't matter. More important to clean up in py3k. >> Would it be finally time to standardize all C files

Re: [Python-Dev] Running Clang 2.7's static analyzer over the code base

2010-05-03 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> Will changing the indentation of source files to 4 space indents break > patches on the bug tracker? Plain patch will choke, but "patch -l" might accept them. I have only read the documentation, though, and don't know whether it does in practice. Regards, Martin

Re: [Python-Dev] Running Clang 2.7's static analyzer over the code base

2010-05-03 Thread Alexandre Vassalotti
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > Now would be a good time to convert the C files to 4 space indents.  We've > only been talking about it for a decade at least. Will changing the indentation of source files to 4 space indents break patches on the bug tracker? -- Alexandre ___

Re: [Python-Dev] Running Clang 2.7's static analyzer over the code base

2010-05-03 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 03, 2010, at 10:12 PM, Steve Holden wrote: >Antoine Pitrou wrote: >> Le Mon, 03 May 2010 16:11:53 -0700, Brett Cannon a écrit : >>> And in reply to Benjamin's question about the whitespace, I guess it >>> actually doesn't matter. More important to clean up in py3k. >> >> Would it be finall

Re: [Python-Dev] Running Clang 2.7's static analyzer over the code base

2010-05-03 Thread Steve Holden
Antoine Pitrou wrote: > Le Mon, 03 May 2010 16:11:53 -0700, Brett Cannon a écrit : >> And in reply to Benjamin's question about the whitespace, I guess it >> actually doesn't matter. More important to clean up in py3k. > > Would it be finally time to standardize all C files on a 4-spaces > indent

Re: [Python-Dev] Running Clang 2.7's static analyzer over the code base

2010-05-03 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Le Mon, 03 May 2010 16:11:53 -0700, Brett Cannon a écrit : > > And in reply to Benjamin's question about the whitespace, I guess it > actually doesn't matter. More important to clean up in py3k. Would it be finally time to standardize all C files on a 4-spaces indentation rule? I understand the

Re: [Python-Dev] Running Clang 2.7's static analyzer over the code base

2010-05-03 Thread Brett Cannon
I'll just do a single entry saying that the static analyzer was used and not list the files. And in reply to Benjamin's question about the whitespace, I guess it actually doesn't matter. More important to clean up in py3k. On May 3, 2010 4:00 PM, "Antoine Pitrou" wrote: Benjamin Peterson pyth

Re: [Python-Dev] Running Clang 2.7's static analyzer over the code base

2010-05-03 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Benjamin Peterson python.org> writes: > > 2010/5/3 Brett Cannon python.org>: > > When I check in these changes I will do it file by file, but my question is > > how to handle Misc/NEWS. I have gone through the underscores and the 'a's in > > Modules and already have six modified files, so the

Re: [Python-Dev] Running Clang 2.7's static analyzer over the code base

2010-05-03 Thread Benjamin Peterson
2010/5/3 Brett Cannon : > Since 2.7 is probably going to exist for a while, I am running Clang 2.7's > static analyzer (``clang --static``) over trunk. It's mostly just finding > stuff like unneeded variable initialization or variables that are never used > (compilation is picking up unused returne

[Python-Dev] Running Clang 2.7's static analyzer over the code base

2010-05-03 Thread Brett Cannon
Since 2.7 is probably going to exist for a while, I am running Clang 2.7's static analyzer (``clang --static``) over trunk. It's mostly just finding stuff like unneeded variable initialization or variables that are never used (compilation is picking up unused returned values, almost all from PyObje

Re: [Python-Dev] Should we drop active support of OSF/1?

2010-05-03 Thread Jesus Cea
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/05/10 21:55, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: > Just to rephrase: the point of this deprecation cycle is to give users a > chance to take over maintenance, and to declare, in public, that they > are interested in that port. If nobody steps forward, we ca

Re: [Python-Dev] Two small PEP ideas

2010-05-03 Thread Steve Holden
Benjamin Peterson wrote: > 2010/5/3 Guido van Rossum : >> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: >>> I do think it makes sense for the RM to assume these responsibilities where >>> Guido either can't or doesn't want to make the final decision. I think it >>> will fairly substantially

Re: [Python-Dev] Two small PEP ideas

2010-05-03 Thread Benjamin Peterson
2010/5/3 Guido van Rossum : > On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: >> I do think it makes sense for the RM to assume these responsibilities where >> Guido either can't or doesn't want to make the final decision. I think it >> will fairly substantially increase the workload on the R

Re: [Python-Dev] Should we drop active support of OSF/1?

2010-05-03 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Jesus Cea wrote: > On 26/04/10 22:00, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: >>> Maybe we can drop OSF/1 safely supporting Tru64 yet, but we don't have >>> any buildbot running any of this systems... >> Dropping support is fine with me, in the long term. If PEP 11 is truly >> followed, we should deprecate suppor

Re: [Python-Dev] Two small PEP ideas

2010-05-03 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> In the meantime, let's groom Benjamin to be the Sacred Next Uncle Galvanizing > the Gamut of Language Evolution. I don't think anybody having such a position permanently can really work. Regards, Martin ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.or

Re: [Python-Dev] Two small PEP ideas

2010-05-03 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On May 01, 2010, at 07:12 AM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: > >>> IIRC in the IETF this is done by the committee chair. I think it's a >>> good idea to have this be a single person to avoid endless indecision. >> >>It then seems that this role should

Re: [Python-Dev] Two small PEP ideas

2010-05-03 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 01, 2010, at 07:12 AM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: >> IIRC in the IETF this is done by the committee chair. I think it's a >> good idea to have this be a single person to avoid endless indecision. > >It then seems that this role should go to the release manager of the >upcoming feature release.

Re: [Python-Dev] Two small PEP ideas

2010-05-03 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 30, 2010, at 04:28 PM, Steve Holden wrote: >Martin v. Löwis wrote: >>> As to Guido's point about the decision making process, Nick's right. I just >>> want to make sure we can capture the resolution in the PEP, be it by BDFL >>> pronouncement or "hey, silence is acceptance" email. >> >> I

Re: [Python-Dev] Two small PEP ideas

2010-05-03 Thread Fred Drake
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > but in fact, the scripts make Resolution optional (it's kind of a pain to make > it required just for Standards Track PEPs - contributions welcome). It will also be a pain to retroactively update older PEPs with the newly-required metadata; l

Re: [Python-Dev] Two small PEP ideas

2010-05-03 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 01, 2010, at 08:58 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: >On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 21:09, Barry Warsaw wrote: >>>Though maybe it should be called Conclusion instead of Accepted and >>>used for Rejected PEPs, as well? >> >> Good point.  What do you think about 'Resolution'? > >Fine with me. I've updat

Re: [Python-Dev] Alias for distutils.file_util.write_file in e.g. shutils

2010-05-03 Thread Olemis Lang
On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Tarek Ziadé wrote: > a similar function in >>    e.g. shutils module ? > > A: Yes :) > > Basically, anything useful in distutils.file_util and > distutils.dir_util can maove in Shutil. > That's why I added make_archive (and unpack_archive) > > Please add an issue, I

Re: [Python-Dev] Should we drop active support of OSF/1?

2010-05-03 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Jesus Cea jcea.es> writes: > > Would be enough to raise an "ERROR" at configure time if OSF test is > positive?. To delete that intentional "ERROR" would be trivial. I think it's ok. Noone will probably notice anyway. Regards Antoine. ___ Python-D