[Python-Dev] EuroPython Language Summit report

2011-06-24 Thread Mark Dickinson
EuroPython 2011 Language Summit === Here's a brief report on the EuroPython 2011 Language Summit, held on Sunday 19 June, 2011 in Florence. It was a fairly small meeting, with a lot of informal and loosely-focused discussion and few conclusions reached. I've outlined

Re: [Python-Dev] EuroPython Language Summit report

2011-06-24 Thread Victor Stinner
Le vendredi 24 juin 2011 à 10:52 +0200, Mark Dickinson a écrit : - [Armin Ronacher] Python 3's Unicode support still has some dark areas. What? Unicode support is perfect in Python 3! One example: when opening a text file for reading and writing, the default encoding used depends on

Re: [Python-Dev] EuroPython Language Summit report

2011-06-24 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Mark Dickinson dicki...@gmail.com wrote: PEP 3118: (Not open, but ...)  Revising the buffer protocol.  The buffer    protocol implementation is still buggy and incomplete.  (Mostly okay for 1d    buffers, not even close for higher-dimensional work.) Issue 10181

Re: [Python-Dev] EuroPython Language Summit report

2011-06-24 Thread Vinay Sajip
Mark Dickinson dickinsm at gmail.com writes: virtualenv in Python 3.3? - Apparently there was some discussion at the last PyCon about the possibility of virtualenv going into Python 3.3. As far as I know there's currently no open tracker item or PEP for this.

Re: [Python-Dev] EuroPython Language Summit report

2011-06-24 Thread R. David Murray
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 10:52:40 +0200, Mark Dickinson dicki...@gmail.com wrote: EuroPython 2011 Language Summit === [...] Unicode character classes is a particular need). [Subtopic: what needs to be done to get the new regex module into Python? Should it

[Python-Dev] Summary of Python tracker Issues

2011-06-24 Thread Python tracker
ACTIVITY SUMMARY (2011-06-17 - 2011-06-24) Python tracker at http://bugs.python.org/ To view or respond to any of the issues listed below, click on the issue. Do NOT respond to this message. Issues counts and deltas: open2845 ( +2) closed 21335 (+43) total 24180 (+45) Open issues

Re: [Python-Dev] EuroPython Language Summit report

2011-06-24 Thread Terry Reedy
On 6/24/2011 7:18 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: Le vendredi 24 juin 2011 à 10:52 +0200, Mark Dickinson a écrit : One example: when opening a text file for reading and writing, the default encoding used depends on the platform and on various environment variables. ... oh, I agree. This

Re: [Python-Dev] EuroPython Language Summit report

2011-06-24 Thread Glenn Linderman
On 6/24/2011 1:30 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: The third is to make utf-8 the default. I believe this *is* the proper long term solution and both options are contrary to this. +1 ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org

Re: [Python-Dev] EuroPython Language Summit report

2011-06-24 Thread Victor Stinner
Le vendredi 24 juin 2011 à 16:30 -0400, Terry Reedy a écrit : I see two options to improve the situation. The third is to make utf-8 the default. I believe this *is* the proper long term solution and both options are contrary to this. Oh yes, I also prefer this option, but I suspect that

Re: [Python-Dev] EuroPython Language Summit report

2011-06-24 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 12:55 AM, R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com wrote: [quoting VM summit notes] PEP 0380: Syntax for delegating to a subgenerator. PEP 3150: Statement local namespaces. PEP 3152: Cofunctions. For all three of the above PEPs, there was some feeling that additional