Re: [Python-Dev] Fixing the XML batteries

2011-12-16 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de wrote: If these changes are considered acceptable, I'll copy the above over to the documentation bug I opened at http://bugs.python.org/issue11379 Can these doc changes go into both 2.7 and 3.3? Given that there is no

Re: [Python-Dev] French sprint this week-end

2011-12-16 Thread Stefan Krah
Victor Stinner victor.stin...@haypocalc.com wrote: Do you know simple task to start contributing to Python? Something useful and not boring if possible :-) There is the easy tag on the bug tracker, but many issues have a long history, already have a patch, etc. Do know other generic task

Re: [Python-Dev] French sprint this week-end

2011-12-16 Thread Eli Bendersky
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 11:00, Stefan Krah ste...@bytereef.org wrote: Victor Stinner victor.stin...@haypocalc.com wrote: Do you know simple task to start contributing to Python? Something useful and not boring if possible :-) There is the easy tag on the bug tracker, but many issues have a

Re: [Python-Dev] French sprint this week-end

2011-12-16 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 10:17, Eli Bendersky eli...@gmail.com wrote: Do we have buildbots that build Python with Clang instead of GCC? The reason I'm asking is that Clang's diagnostics are usually better, and fixing all its warnings could nicely complement fixing GCC's qualms. The box running

Re: [Python-Dev] A new dict for Xmas?

2011-12-16 Thread Mark Shannon
Greg Ewing wrote: Mark Shannon wrote: I have a new dict implementation which allows sharing of keys between objects of the same class. We already have the __slots__ mechanism for memory savings. Have you done any comparisons with that? You can't make Python programmers use slots, neither

Re: [Python-Dev] Fixing the XML batteries

2011-12-16 Thread Stefan Behnel
Stefan Behnel, 14.12.2011 20:41: It's clear from the discussion that there are still users and that new code is still being written that uses MiniDOM. However, I would argue that this cannot possibly be performance critical code and that it only deals with somewhat small documents. I say that

Re: [Python-Dev] Fixing the XML batteries

2011-12-16 Thread Baptiste Carvello
Le 16/12/2011 07:53, Stefan Behnel a écrit : Additionally, the documentation on the xml.sax page would benefit from the following paragraph: [[Note: The xml.sax package provides an implementation of the SAX interface whose API is similar to that in other programming languages. Users who

[Python-Dev] Summary of Python tracker Issues

2011-12-16 Thread Python tracker
ACTIVITY SUMMARY (2011-12-09 - 2011-12-16) Python tracker at http://bugs.python.org/ To view or respond to any of the issues listed below, click on the issue. Do NOT respond to this message. Issues counts and deltas: open3175 ( +6) closed 0 (+40) total 25395 (+46) Open issues

[Python-Dev] A new dict for Xmas?

2011-12-16 Thread Jim Jewett
Greg Ewing wrote: Mark Shannon wrote: I have a new dict implementation which allows sharing of keys between objects of the same class. We already have the __slots__ mechanism for memory savings. Have you done any comparisons with that? You can't make Python programmers use slots, neither

Re: [Python-Dev] A new dict for Xmas?

2011-12-16 Thread Terry Reedy
On 12/16/2011 5:03 AM, Mark Shannon wrote: Of course using __slots__ saves more memory, but people don't use them much. Do you think the stdlib should be using __slots__ more? -- Terry Jan Reedy ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org

Re: [Python-Dev] A new dict for Xmas?

2011-12-16 Thread Mark Shannon
Jim Jewett wrote: Greg Ewing wrote: Mark Shannon wrote: I have a new dict implementation which allows sharing of keys between objects of the same class. We already have the __slots__ mechanism for memory savings. Have you done any comparisons with that? You can't make Python

Re: [Python-Dev] A new dict for Xmas?

2011-12-16 Thread Mark Shannon
Terry Reedy wrote: On 12/16/2011 5:03 AM, Mark Shannon wrote: Of course using __slots__ saves more memory, but people don't use them much. Do you think the stdlib should be using __slots__ more? For some things yes, but where it's critical slots are already used. Take the ordered dict, the