Re: [Python-Dev] Anyone still using Python 2.5?

2011-12-21 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 4:49 AM, Michael Foord wrote: > > On 22 Dec 2011, at 01:25, Mark Hammond wrote: > > > FWIW, the most recent version of pywin32 has the following download > counts (rounded to the nearest thousand) > > > > Version 32bit 64bit > > - > > 3.2 - 75

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Anyone still using Python 2.5?

2011-12-21 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 02:49:06AM +0100, Victor Stinner wrote: > > >Do people still have to use this in commercial environments or is > >everyone on 2.6+ nowadays? > > At work, we are still using Python 2.5. Six months ago, we started a > project to upgrade to 2.7, but we have now more urgent ta

Re: [Python-Dev] Anyone still using Python 2.5?

2011-12-21 Thread Matt Joiner
I'm paid to write Python3. I've also been writing Python3 for hobby projects since mid 2010. I'm on the verge of going back to 2.7 due to compatibility issues :( On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Mike Meyer wrote: > On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 01:49:37 + > Michael Foord wrote: >> These figures can't

Re: [Python-Dev] Anyone still using Python 2.5?

2011-12-21 Thread Mike Meyer
On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 01:49:37 + Michael Foord wrote: > These figures can't possibly be true. No-one is using Python 3 yet. ;-) Since you brought it up. Is anyone paying people (or trying to hire people) to write Python 3? Thanks, http://www.mired.org/ Independent

Re: [Python-Dev] Adding features to 2to3... cpython/default right? can I backport to 2.7?

2011-12-21 Thread Benjamin Peterson
2011/12/21 Gregory P. Smith : > I have some features I need to add to lib2to3 to make it more useful for our > purposes at work supporting our massive code base in a Python 2 to 3 > transition. Which tree should I develop these and check these into? > > cpython/default? > > Can I backport this to 3

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Anyone still using Python 2.5?

2011-12-21 Thread Victor Stinner
On 21/12/2011 15:26, anatoly techtonik wrote: I believe most AppEngine applications in Python are still using 2.5 run-time. So are development boxes for these applications. It may take another year or two for the transition. App engine 1.6 improved support of Python 2.7, so I hope that -slowly-

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Anyone still using Python 2.5?

2011-12-21 Thread Victor Stinner
What's the general consensus on supporting Python 2.5 nowadays? There is no such consensus :-) Do people still have to use this in commercial environments or is everyone on 2.6+ nowadays? At work, we are still using Python 2.5. Six months ago, we started a project to upgrade to 2.7, but we

Re: [Python-Dev] Anyone still using Python 2.5?

2011-12-21 Thread Michael Foord
On 22 Dec 2011, at 01:25, Mark Hammond wrote: > FWIW, the most recent version of pywin32 has the following download counts > (rounded to the nearest thousand) > > Version 32bit 64bit > - > 3.2 - 75,000 9,000 > 3.1 - 4,000 1,000 > 2.7 - 126,000 1

Re: [Python-Dev] A new dict for Xmas?

2011-12-21 Thread Gregory P. Smith
On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:32:44 + > Mark Shannon wrote: > > > > > per-instance attributes, it just forces them all to keep resizing up, > > > even though individual instances would be small with the current dict. > > There is a cut-off po

[Python-Dev] Adding features to 2to3... cpython/default right? can I backport to 2.7?

2011-12-21 Thread Gregory P. Smith
I have some features I need to add to lib2to3 to make it more useful for our purposes at work supporting our massive code base in a Python 2 to 3 transition. Which tree should I develop these and check these into? cpython/default? Can I backport this to 3.2 and 2.7? It counts as a feature additi

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Anyone still using Python 2.5?

2011-12-21 Thread Mark Hammond
FWIW, the most recent version of pywin32 has the following download counts (rounded to the nearest thousand) Version 32bit 64bit - 3.2 - 75,000 9,000 3.1 - 4,000 1,000 2.7 - 126,000 16,000 2.6 - 46,000 6,000 2.5 - 21,000 n/a 2.4 -

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Anyone still using Python 2.5?

2011-12-21 Thread David Malcolm
On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 10:42 +0100, Charles-François Natali wrote: > > Do people still have to use this in commercial environments or is > > everyone on 2.6+ nowadays? > > RHEL 5.7 ships with Python 2.4.3. So no, not everybody is on 2.6+ > today, and this won't happen before a couple years. (and R

Re: [Python-Dev] Cannot use multiprocessing and zip together on windows

2011-12-21 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Leo Jay wrote: > It seems that the situation described here is similar: > http://bugs.python.org/issue10128 > > But the patch doesn't work for me. > > Anybody knows how to fix this? Try the patch from http://bugs.python.org/issue10845 (the one on #10128 only parti

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Anyone still using Python 2.5?

2011-12-21 Thread anatoly techtonik
I believe most AppEngine applications in Python are still using 2.5 run-time. So are development boxes for these applications. It may take another year or two for the transition. -- anatoly t. On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Chris Withers wrote: > What's the python-dev view on this? > > -

Re: [Python-Dev] Anyone still using Python 2.5?

2011-12-21 Thread Charles Cazabon
Michael Foord wrote: > On 21 Dec 2011, at 12:42, Barry Warsaw wrote: > > > > FWIW, Ubuntu dropped 2.5 quite a while ago. The next LTS (long term > > support) release in April 2012 will have only Python 2.7 (and 3.2). True, but 2.5 is still current on Hardy, an LTS release that is officially su

Re: [Python-Dev] Anyone still using Python 2.5?

2011-12-21 Thread wang tiezhen
I am still working on projects based on Python2.4 in commercial environments (limitation of OS: Solaris 5.10). And I don't think this will be changed soon.. 2011/12/21 Michael Foord > > On 21 Dec 2011, at 12:42, Barry Warsaw wrote: > > > On Dec 21, 2011, at 07:16 AM, Chris Withers wrote: > > >

Re: [Python-Dev] Anyone still using Python 2.5?

2011-12-21 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 07:16:06 + Chris Withers wrote: > What's the python-dev view on this? Python 2.5 is not supported by *us* anymore (*). Anyone still using it therefore relies on their OS vendor to apply potential security patches and other important fixes. Library authors can of course ch

Re: [Python-Dev] Anyone still using Python 2.5?

2011-12-21 Thread Michael Foord
On 21 Dec 2011, at 12:42, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Dec 21, 2011, at 07:16 AM, Chris Withers wrote: > >> What's the general consensus on supporting Python 2.5 nowadays? > > FWIW, Ubuntu dropped 2.5 quite a while ago. The next LTS (long term support) > release in April 2012 will have only Python

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Anyone still using Python 2.5?

2011-12-21 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Dec 21, 2011, at 07:16 AM, Chris Withers wrote: >What's the general consensus on supporting Python 2.5 nowadays? FWIW, Ubuntu dropped 2.5 quite a while ago. The next LTS (long term support) release in April 2012 will have only Python 2.7 (and 3.2). The currently in-development next Debian re

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Anyone still using Python 2.5?

2011-12-21 Thread Oleg Broytman
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 07:16:06AM +, Chris Withers wrote: > What's the general consensus on supporting Python 2.5 nowadays? > > Do people still have to use this in commercial environments I have to use it. There is a rather large and complex intranet site with both 32- and 64-bit versions

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Anyone still using Python 2.5?

2011-12-21 Thread Charles-François Natali
> Do people still have to use this in commercial environments or is > everyone on 2.6+ nowadays? RHEL 5.7 ships with Python 2.4.3. So no, not everybody is on 2.6+ today, and this won't happen before a couple years. cf ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Anyone still using Python 2.5?

2011-12-21 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 08:16, Chris Withers wrote: > What's the general consensus on supporting Python 2.5 nowadays? > > Do people still have to use this in commercial environments or is > everyone on 2.6+ nowadays? This seems rather off-topic for python-dev. FWIW, on Gentoo we're just now gett

[Python-Dev] Cannot use multiprocessing and zip together on windows

2011-12-21 Thread Leo Jay
Hi All, I posted this several days ago in python mailing list but got no response and I think it might be a bug, so I post it here. Apologize if it's not appropriate. I have a file p.zip, there is a __main__.py in it, and the content of __main__.py is: from multiprocessing import Process import

[Python-Dev] Fwd: Anyone still using Python 2.5?

2011-12-21 Thread Chris Withers
What's the python-dev view on this? Original Message Subject: Anyone still using Python 2.5? Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 07:15:46 + From: Chris Withers To: Python List , "testing-in-pyt...@lists.idyll.org" , simplis...@googlegroups.com Hi All, What's the general consensus o