Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Anyone still using Python 2.5?

2011-12-22 Thread Sean Reifschneider
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 07:42:45AM -0500, Barry Warsaw wrote: >FWIW, Ubuntu dropped 2.5 quite a while ago. The next LTS (long term support) That's true for *CURRENT* releases, however Ubuntu still supports Python 2.5 via 8.04 LTS (end of life in April 2013). Lucid is 2.6 and goes EOL in 2015. R

Re: [Python-Dev] A new dict for Xmas?

2011-12-22 Thread Maciej Fijalkowski
> - I wonder whether the shared keys could be computed at compile >  time, considering all attribute names that get assigned for >  self. The compiler could list those in the code object, and >  class creation could iterate over all methods (taking base >  classes into account). This is hard, beca

[Python-Dev] hg.python.org mod_wsgi changes

2011-12-22 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Hello, Today I've modified the WSGI configuration at hg.python.org. If you notify anything wrong (e.g. when cloning a repository), please tell me. For the curious: http://mercurial.selenic.com/bts/issue2595 Regards Antoine. ___ Python-Dev mailing l

Re: [Python-Dev] A new dict for Xmas?

2011-12-22 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> The current dict implementation is getting pretty old, > isn't it time we had a new one (for xmas)? I like the approach, and I think something should be done indeed. If you don't contribute your approach, I'd like to drop at least ma_smalltable for 3.3. A number of things about your branch came

Re: [Python-Dev] Adding GNU conditional execution in the Makefile?

2011-12-22 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> If this is a policy, I would like to know. As Guido says: Python should work with "traditional make", I think this is particularly relevant for the BSDs, and Solaris. > And if somebody has a suggestion to cope with this difficulty... Why don't you use some @FOO@ replacement? Have something exp

Re: [Python-Dev] reading multiline output

2011-12-22 Thread Oleg Broytman
Hello. We are sorry but we cannot help you. This mailing list is to work on developing Python (adding new features to Python itself and fixing bugs); if you're having problems learning, understanding or using Python, please find another forum. Probably python-list/comp.lang.python mailing list/

[Python-Dev] reading multiline output

2011-12-22 Thread Mac Smith
Hi, I have started HandBrakeCLI using subprocess.popen but the output is multiline and not terminated with \n so i am not able to read it using readline() while the HandBrakeCLI is running. kindly suggest some alternative. i have attached the output in a file. output Description: Binary dat

Re: [Python-Dev] Anyone still using Python 2.5?

2011-12-22 Thread Tim Wintle
On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 10:56 +0100, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:44:32 + > Tim Wintle wrote: > > > > 2.5 apps are the speed-critical ones. Our tests showed the performance > > was different enough between 2.5 and 2.6 for me to not update. > > Really? Where's the regression?

Re: [Python-Dev] Anyone still using Python 2.5?

2011-12-22 Thread Maciej Fijalkowski
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:44:32 + > Tim Wintle wrote: >> >> 2.5 apps are the speed-critical ones. Our tests showed the performance >> was different enough between 2.5 and 2.6 for me to not update. > > Really? Where's the regression? > > R

Re: [Python-Dev] Anyone still using Python 2.5?

2011-12-22 Thread Stefan Behnel
Antoine Pitrou, 22.12.2011 10:56: On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:44:32 + Tim Wintle wrote: 2.5 apps are the speed-critical ones. Our tests showed the performance was different enough between 2.5 and 2.6 for me to not update. Really? Where's the regression? That's not unexpected at least, and ma

Re: [Python-Dev] Anyone still using Python 2.5?

2011-12-22 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:44:32 + Tim Wintle wrote: > > 2.5 apps are the speed-critical ones. Our tests showed the performance > was different enough between 2.5 and 2.6 for me to not update. Really? Where's the regression? Regards Antoine. ___ Py

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Anyone still using Python 2.5?

2011-12-22 Thread Tim Wintle
On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 07:42 -0500, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Dec 21, 2011, at 07:16 AM, Chris Withers wrote: > > >What's the general consensus on supporting Python 2.5 nowadays? > > FWIW, Ubuntu dropped 2.5 quite a while ago. Some servers I deploy to run Ubuntu, but we're installing previous pyth

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Anyone still using Python 2.5?

2011-12-22 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 4:55 AM, Victor Stinner < victor.stin...@haypocalc.com> wrote: > On 21/12/2011 15:26, anatoly techtonik wrote: > >> I believe most AppEngine applications in Python are still using 2.5 >> run-time. So are development boxes for these applications. It may take >> another year