Re: [Python-Dev] Where to discuss PEP 382 vs. PEP 402 (namespace packages)?

2012-03-11 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Am 11.03.12 16:02, schrieb Guido van Rossum: Martin has asked me to decide on PEP 382 vs. PEP 402 (namespace packages) in time for inclusion of the decision in Python 3.3. As people who attended the language-sig know, I am leaning towards PEP 402 but I admit that at this point I don't have enoug

Re: [Python-Dev] [Import-SIG] Where to discuss PEP 382 vs. PEP 402 (namespace packages)?

2012-03-11 Thread Eric V. Smith
And of course I meant import-sig. -- Eric. "Eric V. Smith" wrote: I think restarting the discussion anew here on distutils-sig is appropriate. -- Eric. Guido van Rossum wrote: Martin has asked me to decide on PEP 382 vs. PEP 402 (namespace packages) in time for inclusion of the decision in

Re: [Python-Dev] [Import-SIG] Where to discuss PEP 382 vs. PEP 402 (namespace packages)?

2012-03-11 Thread Eric V. Smith
I think restarting the discussion anew here on distutils-sig is appropriate. -- Eric. Guido van Rossum wrote: Martin has asked me to decide on PEP 382 vs. PEP 402 (namespace packages) in time for inclusion of the decision in Python 3.3. As people who attended the language-sig know, I am leaning

[Python-Dev] Where to discuss PEP 382 vs. PEP 402 (namespace packages)?

2012-03-11 Thread Guido van Rossum
Martin has asked me to decide on PEP 382 vs. PEP 402 (namespace packages) in time for inclusion of the decision in Python 3.3. As people who attended the language-sig know, I am leaning towards PEP 402 but I admit that at this point I don't have enough information. If I have questions, should I be

Re: [Python-Dev] Zipping the standard library.

2012-03-11 Thread Thomas Wouters
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 14:08, Guido van Rossum wrote: > On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Thomas Wouters > wrote: > > Thanks for the suggestions (Antoine too), but that's not really the > topic I > > want to discuss here (but if you guys move to Google I'll happily discuss > > all the stuff we

Re: [Python-Dev] Zipping the standard library.

2012-03-11 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote: > I do want to support it; that's why we put the facilities you found > there in the first place. Unfortunately nobody actually did the > necessary second step of trying to bundle the stdlib and trying to > make the tests pass. So I think it

Re: [Python-Dev] Zipping the standard library.

2012-03-11 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Thomas Wouters wrote: > Thanks for the suggestions (Antoine too), but that's not really the topic I > want to discuss here (but if you guys move to Google I'll happily discuss > all the stuff we have to deal with.) The questions is really whether Python > wants to

Re: [Python-Dev] im_func: implementation detail?

2012-03-11 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Ethan Furman wrote: > How does someone know if something in CPython is an implementation detail or > not? Sadly, there's a large grey area where the language reference doesn't have enough rigor, so asking here is often the only way. > In the case of im_func, I th

[Python-Dev] im_func: implementation detail?

2012-03-11 Thread Ethan Furman
How does someone know if something in CPython is an implementation detail or not? In the case of im_func, I think it is (an implementation detail), and another person thinks it is part of the language spec. That all implementations must have. ~Ethan~

Re: [Python-Dev] Zipping the standard library.

2012-03-11 Thread Thomas Wouters
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 22:16, PJ Eby wrote: > On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Thomas Wouters wrote: > >> (And, yes, I'm zipping up the stdlib for Python 2.7 at Google, to reduce >> the impact on the aforementioned million of machines :) >> > > You might want to consider instead backporting the