Re: [Python-Dev] .{git,bzr}ignore in cpython HG repo

2012-04-01 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Am 02.04.2012 00:31, schrieb Matěj Cepl: > On 1.4.2012 23:46, Brian Curtin wrote: >> For what reason? Are the git or bzr files causing issues on HG? > > No, but wrong .gitignore causes issues with git repo obtained via > hg-fast-import. If it is meant as an intentional sabotage of using git > (and

[Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.3.0 alpha 2

2012-04-01 Thread Georg Brandl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On behalf of the Python development team, I'm happy to announce the second alpha release of Python 3.3.0. This is a preview release, and its use is not recommended in production settings. Python 3.3 in

[Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.3.0 alpha 1

2012-04-01 Thread Georg Brandl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On behalf of the Python development team, I'm happy to announce the second alpha release of Python 3.3.0. This is a preview release, and its use is not recommended in production settings. Python 3.3 includes a range of improvements of the 3.x series,

Re: [Python-Dev] .{git,bzr}ignore in cpython HG repo

2012-04-01 Thread Scott Dial
On 3/30/2012 11:00 AM, Matěj Cepl wrote: > It is even worse, that (understandingly) .{bzr,git}ignore are apparently > poorly maintained, so in order to get an equivalent of .hgignore in > .gitignore, one has to apply the attached patch. Create an issue on the bug tracker. In the meantime, you can

Re: [Python-Dev] .{git,bzr}ignore in cpython HG repo

2012-04-01 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Matěj Cepl wrote: > On 1.4.2012 23:46, Brian Curtin wrote: >> >> For what reason? Are the git or bzr files causing issues on HG? > > > No, but wrong .gitignore causes issues with git repo obtained via > hg-fast-import. If it is meant as an intentional sabotage of us

Re: [Python-Dev] Use QueryPerformanceCounter() for time.monotonic() and/or time.highres()?

2012-04-01 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 8:46 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote: > Given the amount of disagreement I sense, I think we'll need to wait > for more people to chime in. I currently can't imagine why I *personally* would want anything better than what we currently call time.time. For that reason, I like Ca

Re: [Python-Dev] .{git,bzr}ignore in cpython HG repo

2012-04-01 Thread Brian Curtin
On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 17:31, Matěj Cepl wrote: > On 1.4.2012 23:46, Brian Curtin wrote: >> >> For what reason? Are the git or bzr files causing issues on HG? > > > No, but wrong .gitignore causes issues with git repo obtained via > hg-fast-import. If it is meant as an intentional sabotage of usin

[Python-Dev] an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)

2012-04-01 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 28Mar2012 23:40, Victor Stinner wrote: | > Does this primarily give a high resolution clock, or primarily a | > monotonic clock? That's not clear from either the name, or the PEP. | | I expect a better resolution from time.monotonic() than time.time(). I | don't have exact numbers right now, b

Re: [Python-Dev] .{git,bzr}ignore in cpython HG repo

2012-04-01 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/01/2012 06:31 PM, Matěj Cepl wrote: > On 1.4.2012 23:46, Brian Curtin wrote: >> For what reason? Are the git or bzr files causing issues on HG? > > No, but wrong .gitignore causes issues with git repo obtained via > hg-fast-import. If it is mea

Re: [Python-Dev] .{git,bzr}ignore in cpython HG repo

2012-04-01 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 1.4.2012 23:46, Brian Curtin wrote: For what reason? Are the git or bzr files causing issues on HG? No, but wrong .gitignore causes issues with git repo obtained via hg-fast-import. If it is meant as an intentional sabotage of using git (and bzr) for cpython, then that's the only explanati

Re: [Python-Dev] .{git,bzr}ignore in cpython HG repo

2012-04-01 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Matěj Cepl wrote: > Why does HG cpython repo contains .{bzr,git}ignore at all? So that when people switch between repo software the set of ignored files remains constant. While the "official" repo isn't going to switch any time soon, various developers for various

Re: [Python-Dev] .{git,bzr}ignore in cpython HG repo

2012-04-01 Thread Brian Curtin
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 10:00, Matěj Cepl wrote: > Why does HG cpython repo contains .{bzr,git}ignore at all? > IMHO, all .*ignore files should be strictly repository dependent and they > should not be mixed together. For what reason? Are the git or bzr files causing issues on HG? ___

Re: [Python-Dev] datetime module and pytz with dateutil

2012-04-01 Thread Terry Reedy
On 4/1/2012 9:16 AM, Lennart Regebro wrote: On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 21:20, Terry Reedy wrote: The Windows installer, by default, installs tcl/tk while Python on other systems uses the system install. Why can't we do the same for the Olson database? The problem is that it needs updating. We co

[Python-Dev] .{git,bzr}ignore in cpython HG repo

2012-04-01 Thread Matěj Cepl
Why does HG cpython repo contains .{bzr,git}ignore at all? IMHO, all .*ignore files should be strictly repository dependent and they should not be mixed together. It is even worse, that (understandingly) .{bzr,git}ignore are apparently poorly maintained, so in order to get an equivalent of .hg

Re: [Python-Dev] Issue 14417: consequences of new dict runtime error

2012-04-01 Thread Etienne Robillard
On 03/30/2012 03:25 PM, R. David Murray wrote: On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 15:13:36 -0400, Etienne Robillard wrote: So far I was only attempting to verify whether this is related to PEP-416 or not. If this is indeed related PEP 416, then I must obviously attest that I must still understand why a immut

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 418: Add monotonic clock

2012-04-01 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 11:50, Nadeem Vawda wrote: > Out of the big synonym list Guido posted, I rather like time.stopwatch() - it > makes it more explicit that the purpose of the function is to measure > intervals, > rather identifying absolute points in time. I guess it's the least bad. //Len

Re: [Python-Dev] datetime module and pytz with dateutil

2012-04-01 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 21:20, Terry Reedy wrote: > The Windows installer, by default, installs tcl/tk while Python on other > systems uses the system install. Why can't we do the same for the Olson > database? The problem is that it needs updating. We could include pytz, but it would be useless

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython: Issue #14435: Add Misc/NEWS and Misc/ACKS

2012-04-01 Thread Kristján Valur Jónsson
Wishing to cause minimal disruption, I actually read http://docs.python.org/devguide/committing.html where this file is mentioned as part of the commit checklist. Never knew it existed before. K Frá: python-checkins-bounces+kristjan=ccpgames@python.o