Re: [Python-Dev] Assigning copyright...

2012-04-25 Thread Mark Shannon
stefan brunthaler wrote: Hi, I only had little time to spend for my open sourcing efforts, which is why I could not get back to python-dev any time earlier... Yesterday I forward-ported my patches to revision 76549 (13c30fe3f427), which only took 25mins or so (primarly due to the small changes

[Python-Dev] sys.implementation

2012-04-25 Thread Eric Snow
The proposal of adding sys.implementation has come up a couple times over the last few years. [1][2] While the reaction has been overwhelmingly positive, nothing has come of it. I've created a tracker issue and a patch: http://bugs.python.org/issue14673 The patch adds a struct sequence that

Re: [Python-Dev] Building against system expat

2012-04-25 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
- Original Message - > On 25.04.2012 15:42, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: > > Hi, I'm trying to build Python 3.2.3 against system expat library, > > that lies > > out of the ordinary directory structure (under /opt). I also have > > an older > > version of expat library in the system. No matter wh

Re: [Python-Dev] Assigning copyright...

2012-04-25 Thread Éric Araujo
Hi Stefan, The PSF does not require copyright assignment (ugh!), only a contributor agreement. http://www.python.org/psf/contrib/contrib-form/ should give you all you need. Regards ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.or

Re: [Python-Dev] netiquette on py-dev

2012-04-25 Thread Ben Finney
"Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: > I don't know of any webmail implementations that provide > reply-to-list, so a lot of us end up using reply-to-all. Right, that puts the responsibility in the right place: the webmail software vendor needs to add a reply-to-list command, as has been implemented in

Re: [Python-Dev] cpython (2.7): Issue #14448: mention pytz; patch by Andrew Svetlov

2012-04-25 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 4:40 AM, Georg Brandl wrote: > Maybe it's useful to mention that that database is the one used on Linux (is > it on other Unices?) and Windows has its own? pytz always uses the Olson/IANA database. I don't think we need to confuse matters further by mentioning the fact tha

[Python-Dev] Assigning copyright...

2012-04-25 Thread stefan brunthaler
Hi, I only had little time to spend for my open sourcing efforts, which is why I could not get back to python-dev any time earlier... Yesterday I forward-ported my patches to revision 76549 (13c30fe3f427), which only took 25mins or so (primarly due to the small changes necessary to Python itself

[Python-Dev] Python 3 porting

2012-04-25 Thread Barry Warsaw
I want to take this opportunity to make folks aware of several Python 3 porting initiatives and resources. In Ubuntu 12.10, we are going to be making a big push to target all the applications and libraries on the desktop CDs to Python 3. While this is a goal of Ubuntu, the intent really is to wor

Re: [Python-Dev] Building against system expat

2012-04-25 Thread Georg Brandl
On 25.04.2012 20:44, Georg Brandl wrote: > On 25.04.2012 15:42, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: >> Hi, I'm trying to build Python 3.2.3 against system expat library, that lies >> out of the ordinary directory structure (under /opt). I also have an older >> version of expat library in the system. No matter w

[Python-Dev] [help wanted] - IrDA sockets support

2012-04-25 Thread Charles-François Natali
Hi, Issue #1522400 (http://bugs.python.org/issue1522400) has a patch adding IrDA socket support. It builds under Linux and Windows, however it cannot go any further because no developer involved in the issue has access to IrDA capable devices, which makes testing impossible. So, if you have access

Re: [Python-Dev] cpython: Implement PEP 412: Key-sharing dictionaries (closes #13903)

2012-04-25 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Benchmarks should measure memory usage too, of course. Sadly that is not possible in standard cPython. It's actually very easy in standard CPython, using sys.getsizeof. Yes, you can query each python object about how big it thinks it is. What I'm speaking of is more like: start_allocs, start_

Re: [Python-Dev] Building against system expat

2012-04-25 Thread Georg Brandl
On 25.04.2012 15:42, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: > Hi, I'm trying to build Python 3.2.3 against system expat library, that lies > out of the ordinary directory structure (under /opt). I also have an older > version of expat library in the system. No matter what shell variables or > options I pass to con

[Python-Dev] Python 2.7.3 shared library, like _socket.pyd, cannot be loaded

2012-04-25 Thread Terry Tang
Hi There, I am integrating Python 2.7.3 into our system on Windows. We embedded Python 2.7.3 interpreter to our system. The problem we met is, our extended Python interpreter cannot load "_socket.pyd" when "import socket" is executed, for example. Here is the error: Traceback (most recent call

Re: [Python-Dev] cpython (2.7): Issue #14448: mention pytz; patch by Andrew Svetlov

2012-04-25 Thread Georg Brandl
On 25.04.2012 19:21, Sandro Tosi wrote: > On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 11:55, Nick Coghlan wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Sandro Tosi wrote: >>> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 09:37, Georg Brandl wrote: Also, I'm not sure everybody knows what the "Olson database" is, so maybe that >>>

Re: [Python-Dev] cpython (2.7): Issue #14448: mention pytz; patch by Andrew Svetlov

2012-04-25 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 11:55, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Sandro Tosi wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 09:37, Georg Brandl wrote: >>> Also, I'm not sure everybody knows what the "Olson database" is, so maybe >>> that >>> should be explained too. >> >> I had consider

Re: [Python-Dev] (time) PEP 418 glossary V2

2012-04-25 Thread Steven D'Aprano
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 1:19 AM, Jim Jewett wrote: I'm still a little fuzzy on *why* it shouldn't count as a monotonic clock. So are the people who say it shouldn't count (unless you're speaking of the specific implementation on Unix systems, which can go backward

Re: [Python-Dev] netiquette on py-dev

2012-04-25 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 25, 2012, at 01:58 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: >I go the other way: hit Reply, and then replace the author's address >with the list's. I'd much rather have a Reply List though. >Unfortunately no decent webmail seems to have it, and I'm still >looking for a decent non-web-mail client too. It'

Re: [Python-Dev] netiquette on py-dev

2012-04-25 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 25, 2012, at 12:44 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >Note that people who are really annoyed by the duplicates can set >their Mailman accounts to no-dupes, and Mailman won't send the post to >that person. (This has its disadvantages in principle -- no List-* >headers and other list-specific

[Python-Dev] Building against system expat

2012-04-25 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
Hi, I'm trying to build Python 3.2.3 against system expat library, that lies out of the ordinary directory structure (under /opt). I also have an older version of expat library in the system. No matter what shell variables or options I pass to configure and make, pyexpat gets linked against the

[Python-Dev] Building against system expat

2012-04-25 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
Hi, I'm trying to build Python 3.2.3 against system expat library, that lies out of the ordinary directory structure (under /opt). I also have an older version of expat library in the system. No matter what shell variables or options I pass to configure and make, pyexpat gets linked against the

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython: Fix #3561. Add an option to place the Python installation into the Windows Path

2012-04-25 Thread Brian Curtin
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 08:13, brian.curtin wrote: > http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/4e9f1017355f > changeset:   76556:4e9f1017355f > user:        Brian Curtin > date:        Wed Apr 25 08:12:37 2012 -0500 > summary: >  Fix #3561. Add an option to place the Python installation into the Windows

Re: [Python-Dev] cpython: Implement PEP 412: Key-sharing dictionaries (closes #13903)

2012-04-25 Thread Kristján Valur Jónsson
> -Original Message- > Take a look at the benchmark suite at > http://hg.python.org/benchmarks/ > The test runner has an -m option that profiles memory usage, you could take > a look at how that is implemented > Yes, out of process monitoring of memory as reported by the OS. We do gathe

Re: [Python-Dev] cpython (2.7): Issue #14448: mention pytz; patch by Andrew Svetlov

2012-04-25 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Sandro Tosi wrote: > On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 09:37, Georg Brandl wrote: >> Also, I'm not sure everybody knows what the "Olson database" is, so maybe >> that >> should be explained too. > > I had considered that, but then I found another reference of "Olson > data

Re: [Python-Dev] cpython: Implement PEP 412: Key-sharing dictionaries (closes #13903)

2012-04-25 Thread Mark Shannon
Kristján Valur Jónsson wrote: -Original Message- From: python-dev-bounces+kristjan=ccpgames@python.org [mailto:python-dev-bounces+kristjan=ccpgames@python.org] On Behalf Of mar...@v.loewis.de Sent: 24. apríl 2012 17:44 To: python-dev@python.org Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] cpython:

Re: [Python-Dev] cpython: Implement PEP 412: Key-sharing dictionaries (closes #13903)

2012-04-25 Thread Kristján Valur Jónsson
> -Original Message- > From: python-dev-bounces+kristjan=ccpgames@python.org > [mailto:python-dev-bounces+kristjan=ccpgames@python.org] On > Behalf Of mar...@v.loewis.de > Sent: 24. apríl 2012 17:44 > To: python-dev@python.org > Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] cpython: Implement PEP 412

Re: [Python-Dev] cpython (2.7): Issue #14448: mention pytz; patch by Andrew Svetlov

2012-04-25 Thread Sandro Tosi
Hi Georg, thanks for the review! On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 09:37, Georg Brandl wrote: > On 24.04.2012 19:48, sandro.tosi wrote: >> http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/e0e421133d0f >> changeset:   76532:e0e421133d0f >> branch:      2.7 >> parent:      76527:22767284de99 >> user:        Sandro Tosi >>

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] Daily reference leaks (a2cf07135e4f): sum=6

2012-04-25 Thread Mark Shannon
solip...@pitrou.net wrote: results for a2cf07135e4f on branch "default" test_tempfile leaked [2, 2, 2] references, sum=6 These leaks are due to 6e5855854a2e: “Implement PEP 412: Key-sharing dictionaries (closes #13903)”. They both occur in tests f

Re: [Python-Dev] cpython (2.7): Issue #14448: mention pytz; patch by Andrew Svetlov

2012-04-25 Thread Georg Brandl
On 24.04.2012 19:48, sandro.tosi wrote: > http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/e0e421133d0f > changeset: 76532:e0e421133d0f > branch: 2.7 > parent: 76527:22767284de99 > user:Sandro Tosi > date:Tue Apr 24 19:43:33 2012 +0200 > summary: > Issue #14448: mention pytz; patch b