Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython: Make parameterized tests in email less hackish.

2012-05-30 Thread Nick Coghlan
I'm not clear on why this is a metaclass rather than a simple class decorator. On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 11:54 AM, r.david.murray wrote: > +    In a _params dictioanry, the keys become part of the name of the > generated > +    tests.  In a _params list, the values in the list are converted into a

Re: [Python-Dev] VS 11 Express is Metro only.

2012-05-30 Thread Neil Hodgson
Curt: >> But will it be able to target Windows XP? It will likely be possible in a reasonable manner at some point. From http://blogs.msdn.com/b/visualstudio/archive/2012/05/18/a-look-ahead-at-the-visual-studio-11-product-lineup-and-platform-support.aspx : """C++ developers can also use the

Re: [Python-Dev] VS 11 Express is Metro only.

2012-05-30 Thread Larry Hastings
On 05/30/2012 12:43 PM, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: Please understand that Visual Studio never had the notion of "targetting" an operating system. The Windows SDK has that notion, and it appears that targetting XP continues to be supported. I may be misremembering, but--the C API of necessity cal

Re: [Python-Dev] cpython: Issue #14744: Fix compilation on Windows (part 2)

2012-05-30 Thread Brian Curtin
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Kristján Valur Jónsson wrote: > > > -Original Message- > From: Brian Curtin [mailto:br...@python.org] > Sent: 30. maí 2012 15:56 > To: Kristján Valur Jónsson > Cc: python-dev@python.org > Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] cpython: Issue #14744: Fix compilation on W

Re: [Python-Dev] ur'string literal' in 3.3: make same as in 2.x?

2012-05-30 Thread Nick Coghlan
Sounds reasonable and within the intent of the PEP, so a tracker issue would be the next step. Cheers, Nick. -- Sent from my phone, thus the relative brevity :) ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/py

Re: [Python-Dev] Property inheritance in Python

2012-05-30 Thread Nick Coghlan
On May 31, 2012 1:31 AM, "Guido van Rossum" wrote: > > Agreed this could go on the tracker, but I don't see the need for a Python-Ideas detour. +1 > It seems worth fixing (and I vaguely recall there was some follow-up last time?). You may be thinking of the abstract property fixes that went in

Re: [Python-Dev] cpython: Issue #14744: Fix compilation on Windows (part 2)

2012-05-30 Thread Kristján Valur Jónsson
-Original Message- From: Brian Curtin [mailto:br...@python.org] Sent: 30. maí 2012 15:56 To: Kristján Valur Jónsson Cc: python-dev@python.org Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] cpython: Issue #14744: Fix compilation on Windows (part 2) appear to be no x64 buildbots. >Antoine asked about one sev

Re: [Python-Dev] cpython: Issue #14744: Fix compilation on Windows (part 2)

2012-05-30 Thread Georg Brandl
Am 30.05.2012 16:40, schrieb R. David Murray: > On Wed, 30 May 2012 14:03:44 -, > =?iso-8859-1?Q?Kristj=E1n_Valur_J=F3nsson?= wrote: >> > -Original Message- >> > From: python-dev-bounces+kristjan=ccpgames@python.org >> > [mailto:python-dev-bounces+kristjan=ccpgames@python.org]

Re: [Python-Dev] cpython: Issue #14744: Fix compilation on Windows (part 2)

2012-05-30 Thread Georg Brandl
Am 30.05.2012 16:03, schrieb Kristján Valur Jónsson: > Curiously, the 64bit debug windows build cannot run the unittests either. > There are crash bugs in the release build and I wanted to repro it using the > debug version , but failed. > This is likely to be related to the virtualenv changes, pe

Re: [Python-Dev] VS 11 Express is Metro only.

2012-05-30 Thread Martin v. Löwis
I hereby predict that Microsoft will revert this decision, and that VS Express 11 will be able to build CPython. But will it be able to target Windows XP? I'll still need to try. I couldn't easily find a Windows XP installation to try out whether a hello world application runs on X

[Python-Dev] ur'string literal' in 3.3: make same as in 2.x?

2012-05-30 Thread Terry Reedy
In 2.7, 'r' and 'ur' string literal prefixes have different effects: "When an 'r' or 'R' prefix is present, a character following a backslash is included in the string without change, and all backslashes are left in the string." "When an 'r' or 'R' prefix is used in conjunction with a 'u' or

Re: [Python-Dev] cpython: Issue #14744: Fix compilation on Windows (part 2)

2012-05-30 Thread Brian Curtin
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Kristján Valur Jónsson wrote: > > >> -Original Message- >> From: R. David Murray [mailto:rdmur...@bitdance.com] >> >> >> The "ValueError: Invalid format string" was coming from a broken-on- >> windows test_calendar test I checked in.  It is fixed now and t

Re: [Python-Dev] cpython: Issue #14744: Fix compilation on Windows (part 2)

2012-05-30 Thread Kristján Valur Jónsson
> -Original Message- > From: R. David Murray [mailto:rdmur...@bitdance.com] > > > The "ValueError: Invalid format string" was coming from a broken-on- > windows test_calendar test I checked in. It is fixed now and the stable > windows buildbots are green. > > --David Hm, there appear

Re: [Python-Dev] Property inheritance in Python

2012-05-30 Thread Guido van Rossum
Agreed this could go on the tracker, but I don't see the need for a Python-Ideas detour. It seems worth fixing (and I vaguely recall there was some follow-up last time?). --Guido van Rossum (sent from Android phone) On May 29, 2012 11:58 PM, "Terry Reedy" wrote: > On 5/30/2012 1:58 AM, cyberdup.

Re: [Python-Dev] cpython: Issue #14744: Fix compilation on Windows (part 2)

2012-05-30 Thread R. David Murray
On Wed, 30 May 2012 14:03:44 -, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Kristj=E1n_Valur_J=F3nsson?= wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: python-dev-bounces+kristjan=ccpgames@python.org > > [mailto:python-dev-bounces+kristjan=ccpgames@python.org] On > > Behalf Of Georg Brandl > > Sent: 30. maí 201

Re: [Python-Dev] cpython: Issue #14744: Fix compilation on Windows (part 2)

2012-05-30 Thread Kristján Valur Jónsson
Curiously, the 64bit debug windows build cannot run the unittests either. There are crash bugs in the release build and I wanted to repro it using the debug version , but failed. This is likely to be related to the virtualenv changes, perhaps. see http://bugs.python.org/issue14952 > -Origina

Re: [Python-Dev] Optimize Unicode strings in Python 3.3

2012-05-30 Thread Serhiy Storchaka
On 30.05.12 14:26, Victor Stinner wrote: I implemented something like that, and it was not efficient and very complex. See for example the (incomplete) patch for str%args attached to the issue #14687: http://bugs.python.org/file25413/pyunicode_format-2.patch I have seen and commented on this p

[Python-Dev] Python Language Summit, Florence, July 2012

2012-05-30 Thread Larry Hastings
Like Python? Like Italy? Like meetings? Then I've got a treat for you! I'll be chairing a Python Language Summit this July in historic Florence, Italy. It'll be on July 1st (the day before EuroPython starts) at the Grand Hotel Mediterraneo conference center. Language Summits are when th

Re: [Python-Dev] Optimize Unicode strings in Python 3.3

2012-05-30 Thread Victor Stinner
>> The "two steps" method is not promising: parsing the format string >> twice is slower than other methods. > > The "1.5 steps" method is more promising -- first parse the format string in > an efficient internal representation, and then allocate the output string > and then write characters (or e

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython: Issue #14744: Use the new _PyUnicodeWriter internal API to speed up str%args

2012-05-30 Thread Serhiy Storchaka
On 29.05.12 19:55, Victor Stinner wrote: The following changesets should fix the two errors, but not warnings. Why not move `TYPE *p` declaration inside WRITE_DIGITS? ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/li

Re: [Python-Dev] Optimize Unicode strings in Python 3.3

2012-05-30 Thread Serhiy Storchaka
On 30.05.12 01:44, Victor Stinner wrote: The "two steps" method is not promising: parsing the format string twice is slower than other methods. The "1.5 steps" method is more promising -- first parse the format string in an efficient internal representation, and then allocate the output strin